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Hello everyone,

I recently bought this coin at a flea-market in New York. For 20$, I thought it might be a good buy. Upon getting home and doing a little research, my first though was that this was a fake. It's much bigger than the real thing. Why would anyone make such an obvious fake? Is this silver? What is this thing?

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Often Faked. I came across a silver washed brass one recently.
Your's appears to have a VERY sharply struck rim, and flat letters. Which leads me to think this is fake.
You can try the silver tissue test to see if its silver. Put a tissue over the coin, if its dark, not silver, if it shows up white, that leans towards silver.
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Absolutely 100% fake, I'm afraid, though since the genuine thing never really existed, technically it's a "fantasy" rather than a "fake". The Chinese never made a silver coin denomination larger than a dollar. This one, on the Chinese-language side, claims to be a ten dollar coin. The English phrase at the bottom of the dragon-side, however, is supposed to be the weight - and this piece gives the weight of a 1 dollar coin. If a 10 dollar coin had ever existed, it would have said "72 mace" and would weigh around 270 grams.

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Why would anyone make such an obvious fake?

Not trying to be offensive or anything but, well... you bought it, didn't you? So have a lot of other people, attracted by a big, bright shiny thing they don't know anything about. That's mission accomplished, as far as the manufacturers of these fantasies are concerned.

Is it silver? Almost certainly not. The people who sell these things know exactly what they are selling, and aren't going to sell something that's supposed to weigh 7 ounces of silver for $20. I've never seen a "fantasy" Chinese dollar or multiple-dollar made of silver.
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Sap nailed it.
But easier to question the practicality of the piece before you buy it.
Do you think the Chinese were able to carry those huge "coins" in their pockets and use them as money? Almost certainly not--imagine having multiple 5-ounce "Hockey pucks" in your pocket. ;)
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I used the tissue test and the coin was white. I then scratched at the rim and it was a very bright white. Silver?
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It's a fantasy piece, I personally would buy it as a novelty

What is its mass? Aluminium also gives "white". Left to right are silver, aluminium, nickel.

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I don't have a scale with me, but it's definitely too heavy for aluminium.
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