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Is This Relly A Cartwheel Penny?

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good afternoon folks
I picked this coin up today
I have seen cartwheel pennies and have a few but never have I seen one this size
any guesses
it weighs 51.5 grams
it is 40 mm wide
and 5 mm thick

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If it's a cartwheel 2d you bought for the price of a 1d, it was a good buy
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At 51 grams, it's definitely not a penny. But at only 51 grams, it's quite a bit lighter than a twopence (these "cartwheels" weighed exactly 1 avoirdupois ounce per penny, so a twopence is supposed to weigh 56.7 grams).

Yours is badly worn and/or corroded, so I'm thinking losing 5 grams might be reasonable. I'm fairly sure it's not fake; making a cast fake twopence seems like a lot of trouble to go to for a coin that never circulated much so would likely have been closely examined if received in change.

You might even have a "dishonest weight". Merchants used to use cartwheels as shop weights and people trusted them because everyone knew exactly what they weighed. But a dishonest merchant might have tried to deliberately lighten up your coin - a nice long soak in vinegar might have done the trick - to make his 2 ounces slightly lighter. I own a very worn cartwheel penny that had some of the metal shaved off the rim on one side, presumably for a similar reason; if you put it down on a balance pan you wouldn't notice it was missing several grams of metal.
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Thanks for all the info folks
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