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1816 Brock: Clashed Die, Double Die, Or Something Else?

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 Posted 07/18/2014  10:31 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add cdnmace to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi All,

Got my paws on this one. Sort of a check-out line impulse buy at a coin shop.

Anyway, I could see with with my eyes there was something different about it, had to wait until I got home to put it under the loupe. Admittedly, I know very little about early tokens and respected errors (not that one sees many listed for auction, sale, info pages, etc.), Breton numbers and so on.

So here's this piece. I'm looking for proactive input on what others may think this is (double die, clashed die, something else?). Personally, I'm leaning to clashed die. But the area of the E and O can almost appear to be doubled. Another unique thing is the fact that these anomalies are on both the obverse and reverse.

I realize this is not a great grade, and that these Brocks' were weakly struck etc., but these ones do pop out. Is are/these common? I don't even know a rough estimate of mintage of these.

Any help is and will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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 Posted 07/18/2014  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pennysaver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi cdnmace

I'm just wondering here... you mention that there is one of these marks on each side of the coin... are they directly opposite each other? The point I'm getting at, is it possible that it's a hole right through that is filled with dirt and debris? If so, the "ring" could be the burr from drilling the hole. If they're not, then I'm not sure what the marks are -- a nice error though. Nice find!
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 Posted 07/18/2014  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps double struck or struck over something else.
Breton #724
Charlton UC-6-A7
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 07/19/2014  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cdnmace to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Pennysaver... great question! I looked based on your question, and no, doesn't line up. Under the loupe it doesn't look like the result of incomplete drilling/attempt at holing it.

DBM... thanks for the lead, I'll look into that right away.

Cheers.
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Those are just the numbers for your reference, to help you narrow it down. Didn't find an error like yours.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
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 Posted 07/19/2014  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cdnmace to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very much appreciated, DBM!
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