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I couldn't find a place to post this or even another site that would field my question, so delete this if it's inappropriate.

I heard that there was an arrowhead designed by Philip II and Alexander III. Is this true? Here are pictures of two that claim to be such arrowheads. How would you describe them to differentiate them from other Greek arrowheads?

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Philip II designed the sarissa a pole about 18 ft long which was quite successful, you can google it, but I found no picture that were definitive.
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A quick search on Philip II leads me to believe that was the only invention or new item that he introduced into the military.

It makes me think that people are just trying to spin Greek arrowheads of that time period as being invented by them to gain so added luster.

When they say Scythian, does that mean not Greek or was Scythian bronze used by both?
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I am sure that I read that the tips were bronze leaf arrowheads, not the same as the pictures you show, so I would be wary and do further investigation. You will have to google Scythian for further info.
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Macedoia didn't really use archers but used javelins and slingers which were more effective (bows were not as useful.) Although bows were used by the Cretan archers levied by Alexander however they never saw combat like the others levied from the Hellenic league as Alexander saw the Greeks as an embarrassement and sent them away as soon as possible. Btw Macedonia is not Greek nor was it a Greek city state (look at the historical and modern evidence you can go anywhere from Macedonian sources to Roman and even Greek sources.)

On inventions the Sarissa is the most well known however Phillip II was also known for building the first siege towers this would be developed by Alexander and used against Rhodes and Tyre and during Demetrious I Poliokertes reign he would build the Heliopolis (taker of cities) (how he got the name Poliokertes) not only housing the siege tower itself but a great number of catapults as well as being completely housed in metal plates.
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I have a Scythian arrowhead that looks a lot like the first one you pictured. The Scythians weren't Greek; they were primarily from territory to the North and East of Persia, although my knowledge about them is a little shaky. I have never heard of Greeks making this sort of arrowhead (these were probably used as proto-money, not weapons) during the time period of Alexander.
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Thanks Florin. That helps a lot. Maybe I'll increase my budget to a spearhead of a Sarissa or a slinger.
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