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Spotting What's Wrong With This Coin Being Sold On Ebay....

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 Posted 08/03/2014  07:28 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I saw this coin being listed on ebay at the moment and immediately knew the listing was incorrect in a couple of respects.

Who can tell the some of the reasons that this coin isn't worth what it is being sold for?

So what do you think it is actually worth?

Described as:-

"PESCENNIUS NIGER AR DENARIUS 193-194 AD 2,9g 19mm"

Asking price is ~£580, ~$1,000

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 Posted 08/03/2014  08:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Absolutely no idea! Not been able to find the reverse on his coins, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Can't read the legend with any certainty. None of his coins seem to have the indentations at the bottom of the obverse, I don't suppose it used to say WRL before being worn down?
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 Posted 08/03/2014  08:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It didn't say WRL. Keep going though.

The obverse legend is legible if you work at it.
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 Posted 08/03/2014  08:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No good, I can't really make it out, not in any way that makes sense. It does not appear to say PESC though.
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 Posted 08/03/2014  08:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The legend seems a bit odd. From what I can see it reads: IMP CMO PERSC or something like that.
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It seems to be missing 'CAES', looks more like 'CM?' after the 'IMP'.

By no means an expert on his coinage but don't they all start 'IMP CAES...'?
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 Posted 08/03/2014  08:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not Macrinus is it?
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I thinks thats a nail on the head moment pishpash

I didn't think it looked like Pescennius but was looking at Septimius coins myself, though one might have been butchered.
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 Posted 08/03/2014  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biancasdad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMP C M OPEL SEV MACRINVS AVG
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 Posted 08/03/2014  09:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First part solved. It is Macrinus.

Given this, what else is wrong?
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 Posted 08/03/2014  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The seller sold this coin as a PN but according to the legend is a Didius Julianus, although I can't find the type
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROMAN-COI...047675.l2557
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 Posted 08/03/2014  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wildwinds only has one example of this coin, and it doesn't have a nose like Nerva?
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 Posted 08/03/2014  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll put you out of your misery as the next bit is tough. I recognised the dies as being entirely modern. The coin has been artifically worn and comes from the dies that made the following modern copy.

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 Posted 08/03/2014  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is a fake? It is very round? It looks quite thick, the examples I have seen are quite thin? Put us out of our misery!
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 Posted 08/03/2014  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Look in my post above yours....
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 Posted 08/03/2014  09:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes we crossed. Definitely something off about this seller.
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