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Colonial American Half Penny? (Saw On Other Topic)

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 Posted 08/03/2014  6:20 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add kommodore_ss to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
what is this coin?
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found here a similar one:
http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...PIC_ID=48611
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 Posted 08/03/2014  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerseyben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe yours is an evasion piece from England. I have sent this link to an expert in the field. I believe he will be able to make a positive ID.

Just to note, the coin in the link you provided is actually a Wood 33 Blacksmith Token and it is the most common variety.
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 Posted 08/04/2014  12:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is indeed a British evasion contemporary counterfeit halfpenny. Instead of the legend on the official coinage of GEORGIVS III REX, the obverse reads GLORIOVS IER VIS, as the portrait has been changed to that of Sir John Jervis. This obverse can be paired with a number of reverse legends, often reflecting Jervis' status as a naval hero, such as BRITISH TARS. This coin's legend seems to end with the NIA of the standard BRITANNIA, though.
Edit-- The reverse legend does read BRITANNIA, but with the added phrase RULES THE MAIN in smaller letters around the bottom. A salute to the British Navy all around!

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 Posted 08/04/2014  08:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Philadelphian nailed it. Evasion catalog identification is Cobwright G0830 B0640
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 Posted 08/04/2014  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kommodore_ss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, you are right that's it.
Could you please tell me a little explanation of what is exactly. token ? official coin?
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 Posted 08/04/2014  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a detailed page on British counterfeit coppers. The section on evasion coins is at the bottom:
http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/Col...t.intro.html
But the story behind the evasion coppers is that, supposedly, in late 18th century Britain, the law against counterfeiting was only broken if you tried to make an exact copy of an official coin. If the words or images on the coin were changed, no law was broken; a counterfeiting charge was "evaded" by making coins like this. And these coins were in demand; The Royal Mint stopped making copper halfpence in 1775, since they were only important to the lives of the poor and working-class. By the end of the 18th century, in many places, most copper halfpennies in use were counterfeits.
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Thanks for the story!
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Does it have any value friends?
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 Posted 08/05/2014  07:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerseyben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In that condition it is worth a few dollars. Remember though that contemporary counterfeits DO have value and people DO collect them (people like me).
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http://static-numista.com/catalogue...ni/g5157.jpg
http://static-numista.com/catalogue...ni/g5158.jpg
here are two better pictures ( I think :) )
i can swap it if you want it, I have some other interesting uk coins
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