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Valued Member
United States
320 Posts |
I had a former employee in his 50's steal some coins from me yeaterday while picking up his items left at the office. We were friendly with each other but I always didnt trust him. I turned my back for 5 min and he went to work. When I contacted him he denied it. I received a phone call from a local coin shop yesterday where he went and tried to sell a few of them. Thankfully, the dealer recognised one of the coins and knew I am the only person in 200 miles who owns one. When he askex they guy "did you get that from anthony" this pc of garbage said I sold it to him and left the store. I called him last night and demanded their return. He stated via tx he would return everything if I let him keep a few items for work he thinks he is still owed on. I also found out he has done this to anyone who has ever had contact with him and has no fiends. Now my question is do I go to the cops? Will they tell me its civil and do nothing? Do I send bruno and moose over to beat him? Negotiate? I'm afraid the longer he has them the better chance I never see them again. I should have never turned my back
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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How much total value are we talking here? If it isn't all that much...call it lesson learned and move on. If the value is significant then report the robbery. Problem is you likely have no way to prove the coins are indeed yours.
Edited by unholyroller
08/05/2014 08:49 am
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Valued Member
 United States
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Valued Member
United States
320 Posts |
Those are my fears. The police do nothing. The courts are a legal racketeering scam. I have no faith in our justice system. If I go to the police and they do nothing, will it just upset him more and really not give them back? I do have a text where he admits taking them
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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For this large of an amount it might be worthwhile to consult with an attorney. Initial appointments usually are fairly cheap or even free and you could figure out what your options are. As a collector I feel for you.
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Valued Member
United States
320 Posts |
Im not concerned about what it cost. I just want to do it the right way without any delay in its return. The longer its in his possession the more of a chance I will never see it again
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Moderator
 United States
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If I remember right the first 15 minutes is free with an attorney,that's what I recommend.At the very least inform the police so there will be a record of what this guy is doing.Good luck to you. John1  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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This is very disturbing. I suggest you report it to the police immediately and then see an attorney. See if there is any way you can get them back in the meantime, I would really like to think that the "Bruno & Moose" scenario would work, as that would be the easiest and would be pretty much well earned on his part, but it' neither legal nor effective. What does he think you owe him?
Edited by zxcccxz
08/05/2014 10:07 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Go to the police.
They may do nothing, but the crime will be documented and that is a first step if there's any Homeowner's Insurance available. They will need the police report.
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Pillar of the Community
Korea, Republic Of
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Wow, what an immoral jerk! Anyone who steals 80 grand plus and tries to negotiate with you instead of returning them to their owner is indeed a criminal. Whatever the outcomes may be, with all the evidence that you could gather, go to the cops.
Aye, get the s*?t out of him at court.Try as hard as you can to get your coins back and send that piece of garbage to jail.
Did you photograph any of them prior to the robbery? That may be some good evidence that you were indeed in possesion of those coins before the robbery took place.
Edited by Matteproof
08/05/2014 09:43 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If he has already tried to sell them it is only a matter of time before he tries again. I'd start making calls to the coin dealers, pawn shops, and "we buy gold" establishments in your area. It might be useful to have a police report to give them or reference. This is both a criminal and civil matter. Negotiating with your employee won't likely get you very far and will likely just provide him more time to offload the goods. You need to move fast.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Wait a second....
You're telling me that a person came in your coin store, stole $80,000 in rare coins and you have not called the polic because you lack faith in the judicial system?
Seriously?
Either there is something amiss in the story or I'm not understanding. I am very familiar with the law and legal process and you have a clear cut case of grand larceny unless, again, you're not articulating the facts appropriately. If not the latter, please dial 911, have dispatch send a patrol, explain your story, show them the texts for goodness sake, and they will go see the perp who, based on the text messages alone where he has confessed to you according to you, will be handcuffed and booked on several charges.
What am I missing? That you think the patrol will show up, hear you pout, read your texts and declare "have a nice day". In what country? America?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I too am a bit confused with all this. For that amount you nor anyone should have hesitated in filing a police report. AND the longer you wait, the more likely even the police will suspect something is wrong with all this. IF you don't report this, he will obviously continue doing things like this over and over. Why not? An $80,000 robbery and nothing said? If it were me I'd be on the phone so fast the wires would be burning.
Not sure how you can even ask about him. And as to proving it all, hopefully you recorded any conversations with him about this theft. Hopefully that other person he tried to sell to could help with what happened. He too is a witness you know.
Are you that rich you can simply dismiss such a large amount of money? Were all those simply laying in plain view for anyone to grab? Not sure if all has been noted here but from what you have stated, I really can not see what is holding you up from reporting this theft.
Edited by just carl
08/05/2014 10:45 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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You won't even be able to get an insurance claim without a police report.
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Forum Dad
United States
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The shopkeeper saw him with one and KNOWS it yours. Call the police immediately.
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