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Carolus IIIi 4 Reales 1808 Coin, Mint Mark And Value

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Ok I just started to get into foreign crowns to do a crowns of the world and bullion set and I wasn't going to do any pieces of 8 or reales because of there price prohibition. But I was in my coin shop yesterday to pick something up for my album (was going to get the armenian noahs ark) but ran across this 4 real coin totally in my price range so I couldn't pass it up.

I have been trying to do research on it, its clearly a Spanish milled coined from King Charles the IV I am thinking for Columbia as that is clearly a P mint mark but what is the I or maybe T next to it. what country and mint mark is this coin. Also what do you think its value is, this coin shop seems to be completely clueless to the value of foreign coins as I have pulled two silver coins out of their junk bin this week for 20 cents each. I am thinking they might have been selling it for its silver value.



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 Posted 08/09/2014  3:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sirdizzy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry here is a better reverse image

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 Posted 08/09/2014  6:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add keepcalmandcoinon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice coin. You can usually find a good circulated example of a carlous IIII 8 reales for around 60 bucks. Just do some research before because there a alot of counterfiets.
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 Posted 08/09/2014  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add keepcalmandcoinon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From what I can see it looks like a P J which would be from bolivia.
http://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/...2-duid-30549
If they sold this to you for melt than you got a great deal.
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08/09/2014 7:35 pm
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It was $22. Wasn't so expensive that I was worried.
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Yea and it could be a pj so Bolivia good to know. Price guide you posted says $30 so not a bad deal.
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What you see is not a P alone, but the Potosi monograp PTS (all the letters above each other).
It's much more common than Columbian coins (Popoyan) - which are scarce.
Still, the 4 reales is the scarcest denomination IMHO - it's a nice coin you found here, for a very nice price :)
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Yea figured out the mint mark its that little dollar looking thing is fairly worn on mine which is why I didn't catch it at first.

Very cool coin they also had 1 reale and 2 reale's thinking of going back and grabbing those as well, these seem like a pretty good buy.
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Potosí 1808 4 reales. Scarce.
Remember 1808 is the year of the beguinning of our Independence War against french.
May the 2th 1808 in Madrid Monteleón Artillery Barracks- Mostoles war declaration against french occupation
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