Coin Authenticity

All fakes - of recent, probably Chinese, manufacture .
There are some genuine pattern threepences dated 1937.

D_chel: to the CCF, it is good to have you aboard.

bellyflorin is right, unfortunately; all are of recent Chinese manufacture.

To be fooled, they should have picked on much more common dates rather than the rare dates, and try much harder.

They all look to be die struck, the dies made by laser optic profiling to make a cyberspace model, then use that model to cut the dies by the spark erosion process. The details on these are too mushy.

There has been no attempt to patinate them.

Where did you get them from?

I DO maintain a reference collection of fake coins; I would buy these for their scrap value, plus a small premium if I was interested, but I am mainly into ancient coins.

They were glued to some old silver-plated teaspoons my father bought about 6 years ago. He originally thought they were soldered on. There were other coins as well, but these were the most interesting ones.

I know 1 of the coins is a fake copy definitely, and I'm pretty sure the 1930 penny is a changed date not a fake.

The 1930 looks too new. It is a modern fake. The 'wear' on the king's crown is incongrous with the general UNC appearance. It has a fresh copper look belying its pretence to be 70 years old. As sel_69 said, the faker did not even bother to patinate their handiwork.

fake this fake that.... why even bother collecting coins just to many fakes out there now to bother I am slowly loosing interest in this habbit I have and I think a lot of people have been burnt by these fools in china and the shed jobbers for the average punter its just to hard .....just like this poor bloke he got done and people laugh I have seen these spoons being sold by coin dealers on ebay one Is a bullion dealer I saw a set get $900 poor fools think they have found there fortune all the spoons have rare coins on them I think there has been a link or 2 on here before

I have to agree with Shanew, it is very difficult even after doing some research, you just don't know and need more help to make the correct decision.

And worse still being taken buy fakes on ebay then realising once it arrives that it is fake and then being stuck with having to foot the return postage bill to satisfy paypigs.

I know it happen to me with a 1925 penny I bought. You may all remember that one. I still have that coin just to remind me how bloody stupid I am. And the fact he didn't even want it back.

It is OK to say research research but to a new person in this field its still very difficult and once you get caught out you just feel stupid and like you been had big time its a real put off.

To me its just plain counterfeiting and should be out lawed. Hiding behind sayings like filler coins and replicas is just BS as we all know they end up in a another hand and sold as genuine and then when caught out say OH I didn't know.

That just is not good enough.

You did this a hundred years ago they jailed you.

Sel, for some coins and buyers there is no other option than to buy a high priced coin on ebay.
I paid nearly $4,000 for a penny last year, coin was in Manchester (England) and I'm in Sydney (Australia). A raw penny, a sleezy seller (he shill bids and he cancels sales where he doesn't get a good price) but I had to have this coin (a very rare die pair and the coin is the finest example).
But I did my research and knew how to spot a genuine example from the die markers.
For 1930 pennies, Centenary florins and all the other commonly faked coins you have to know the coins INTIMATELY and know all the nuances of the genuine coin before bidding on a high priced coin, and if the seller won't provide clear images for a high priced item then ask yourself WHY.