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The Problem With E-Bay

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 Posted 08/18/2007  11:12 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add roach to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have finally figured out why there is so much over grading on e-bay. I buy and sell coins for myself. I buy for my collection and sometimes if I see a good deal I buy and resell. The problem I am having is when I go to sell a coin If I dont bump the grade up 1 tier from what I think it is it will sell for next lowest grade. In other words , I have a coin that I think is XF,If I list it as XF I get VF money for it. If I list as AU I get XF money for it. Almost every time. I don't sell to rip people off, I just want fair value for my coins. I am not talking retail, I mean just Fair market value. I am an honest seller and would not think of ripping any-one off. Just my 2 cents on E-bay. My ebay ID is soroch12345 if you want to see what I mean.
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 Posted 08/18/2007  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As a buyer, I bid a grade low, just like you say. I do it because I know the seller is quoting it a grade high. See what I mean? Which came first?
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When it comes to grading, Sellers are optimists, Buyers are pessimists. It's the same with every collectible, as far as I can tell, and the exact same people have no problem flip-flopping between the two viewpoints. It's just human nature, and not a measure of dishonesty. (The dishonest folk take it to a whole 'nother level.
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I agree with you roach, but I wouldn't say it's THE problem with ebay, just A problem with ebay, and one easily addressed by market forces. I don't blame you a bit as coin grading is just marketing, slabbed or unslabbed.
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The list of problems with ebay is as long as your arm. Of course, some of those problems are also the advantages.
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 Posted 08/18/2007  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USArmyParatrooper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's for this reason I only buy certified coins on ebay. If it's a lower cost, raw coin I buy it from a dealer.
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Regardless of what the seller claims the grade is; if large, clear, hi-res, photos are provided and a reasonable return policy, the seller will always realize the "fair market value" at the time the listing is completed. Sellers must also acknowledge all of the other variables including feedback, S/H, time of listing, and accuracy of listing.
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Very true benji, maybe I will start putting high res pictures and no estimated grade from now on. Fair market value after all is what the market is willing to pay for something. I worry that not enough will look at it to produce that "market" that is needed (ie enough potential buyers to look at a given coin)
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You always have the options of BST boards, auction houses, or sell direct to local dealers.
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quote:
I worry that not enough will look at it to produce that "market" that is needed (ie enough potential buyers to look at a given coin)


If I may, I would suggest using all of the characters/spaces that ebay allows you. I don't see US or coin in any of your listings. Right there are two very large search words. O would also re-word quite a few of them as some words aren't needed at all. "in", "on", things like that will probably never be searched for.... Just my opinion of course.
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I've never attempted to grade raw coins for ebay auctions. I refer bidders to the photos and ask them to judge the grade for themselves. I do the same when I sell slabbed coins from TPGs other than one of the top 4.
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