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 Posted 08/16/2014  06:00 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add nattwell to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
can anyone help with id and if they are repros please all are non magnetic and the weights in order are :. 1.3 g/1.3 g/ 2.3 g/4.4 g ,many thanks

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 Posted 08/16/2014  06:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Alas, of the four, only one is an actual coin.

#1: a Nuremberg jeton. You can read the token-maker's name: "HANNS KRAUWINCKEL". This UKDFD reference article on Nuremberg jetons is good reading on the various types commonly found in Britain.

#2 is not a coin, though what it is exactly I'm not sure. You've got a very crude picture of King James I on one side, and an even cruder British Coat of Arms on the other. I'd guess it's a coin weight, piece of play money or perhaps a locally-made jeton.

#3 is a modern replica of an Elizabethan coin. See the little "&" shape stamped into it, first pic, top left of the shield? It's the symbol of a common replica-maker from the late 20th century.

#4: it appears to be a Calais-minted groat of a King Henry; I'm without my English references right now but if you post just that one in the British forum, they should help you narrow down the ID.
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 Posted 08/16/2014  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
#4 is the image of a Calais mint groat or halfgroat of the rosette-mascle issue of Henry VI, which were minted 1427-30. Unfortunately, see on both sides where some of the outer edges of the legends are clipped, or off the flan? This is common enough, but it only happens at the edge of the coin. Here, the image of an entire coin is transposed onto a larger disc; a casting or electrotype, I suspect.
The legend on the Nuremberg jeton (#1) reads, GOTES REICH BLIBT EWICK, or, "God's kingdom remains eternal."
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