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Sell My Gold & Non-Pm Coins To Buy Silver, Good Investment ?

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 Posted 08/19/2014  4:28 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add canadtech to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am wondering, given that many say the price of silver is/has been artificially manipulated downward for a long time but at some point will increase dramatically due to shortages and a return to fair market value, would now be a good time to sell my gold & non-PM coins and put it into silver ? I am interested in this community's Opinions and I fully realize that no can know for sure what the future will bring, BUT, I would really like to know what you more knowledgeable than myself folks think. I inherited a fair size but Very mixed collection which has been quite the learning curve for me, I really enjoy it but I also want to someday get the most out of it that I can.
Thoughts ?
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 Posted 08/19/2014  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ASEnut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No one can say what silver will do its only a guess but if I where you I wont sell, rather Just start buying silver
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 Posted 08/19/2014  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CanadianCoins1999 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd sell what you don't want to keep to buy stuff you want to buy. Personally I'm selling some of my coins and going to bullion.
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 Posted 08/19/2014  4:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Harmonica to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You might get more traffic if you post this in the P.M. forum, Canadtech.
I have been buying silver lately because a) it is pretty low right now and b) I have my first "real" job.

Like ASEnut said no one can say for certain and you can always just buy silver but if you are strapped for cash or you want to develop, lets say, a really nice Maple Leaf collection you could sell some of your inherited clutter and re-focus. I find the occasional prune is good for my collection.


Have you done all your homework so you know the pros and cons of things like rounds, junk, coins, N.C.L.T, bars etc. etc,?
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 Posted 08/19/2014  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't like any of the metals right now. I would sell and go to cash or an alternative investment.
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 Posted 08/19/2014  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would hold off on swapping your gold for silver until the GSR gets up to around 75 - 80... (if it ever gets there).

As for the price of silver... well who's to say what on that.. It is my opinion that the price of silver shot up to nearly $40 an oz because of the "paper silver" and silver derivatives all having to hold as much physical as they were selling on paper. This in short cause a spike in demand.. Silver has been dancing around 18-24 for the last two years and I personally don't see any reason why it would "spike" in price at anytime soon.

I would caution the purchase of PM's in terms of an "investment" strategy.. and state that buying PM's is more like hedging against inflation.

Now what would I do if I was in your shoes? Well if I had a bunch of coins which I really wasn't interested in... I would most likely sell them to get into something I was more interested in... be it skiing, fishing, dance lessons or PM's .. what ever tickles your fancy... life is short enjoy it!
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 Posted 08/19/2014  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petersun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why sell gold now? To replace it with silver, a metal that trends with gold?
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 Posted 08/19/2014  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junjun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, I am a collector, not an investor or speculator.
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 Posted 08/19/2014  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Why sell gold now? To replace it with silver, a metal that trends with gold?


Peterson......silver does not trend with gold.

Over the last 15 years, you could have greatly increased your PM ounces by swapping silver for gold and then swapping back the gold for silver when the ratios favoured this.

The GSR (gold silver ratio) has fluctuated from 35:1 to 100:1.

EX. at 100:1 you swap your 5 ounces of gold for 500 ounces of silver.
When the ratio hits 35:1, you swap your 500 ounces back to gold and you receive 14.2 ounces of gold.

The beauty of this system is you need not pay attention to the price of the PM's, rather you must focus in on their 'relative' price to each other.
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 Posted 08/19/2014  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadtech to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting replies so far, along the same lines of what I've been thinking.
from my reading it is clear the gold/silver ratio is a long way from the historical average,
with silver much lower. some are saying that both are likely to go up, that suppression can't last
forever and that if the historical ratio returns silver will gain more in value than gold.
from what I'v been reading it sounds like "paper" gold and silver is a giant scam, with many
people supposedly "owning" the very same possibly even non-existent piece of metal, I will not
go anywhere near that. If I had more expendable cash I would be buying more silver, and I am wondering
if there's more to gain with silver than gold, I've read some quite convincing sounding arguments
for silver over gold.

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 Posted 08/19/2014  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadtech to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
doubleeagle59
i hadn't thought of that, interesting, I was mainly thinking about swap and hold.
More food for thought !
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 Posted 08/19/2014  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Harmonica to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The bottom could drop out of either or. I do not play the metals game per se (other then to use as trading tools) but I suppose the old adder "Don't put all your eggs in one basket" applies here.
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 Posted 08/19/2014  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe for the long haul, PM's is the only way to go.

Think of it this way.

If you were handed $100,000.00 and told you had to invest it for 20 years and you could only invest it in one sector without changing it for the 20 years, would you choose:

a) cash
b) stock market(choose one blue chip stock)
c) balanced mutual fund (most likely includes a good percentage of bonds)
d) Precious metals, Platinum, gold and/or silver.

With the abundance of money printing and huge run up of government debts, I would hope everyone would choose 'd'.

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 Posted 08/19/2014  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brexzz1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
e) Real Estate
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 Posted 08/19/2014  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The GSR swap is THE best way to gain free metal. And as one previous poster had mentioned you don't have to care about what the price of gold or silver is at any point...

Now I have my own opinions on gold and silver... I really don't use either as an "investment"... sure I buy them but to me owning them is like storing money in the mattress.. just this currency is recognized all over the world.. easily transportable and very malleable.

If you look at what an ounce of gold could buy 100 years ago, it's pretty much the same.. the difference in dollar value is attributed only to inflation. That's why I don't look at PM's as investment at all....

To answer doubleagle's proposition with 100K I would NEVER place all the eggs in one basket.. but IF I had to pick one it WOULD be stocks... but MORE than just one....
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 Posted 08/20/2014  05:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Then the gov steps in and caps PM prices, or even outlaws ownership, to protect the dollar. Anything is possible.
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