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 Posted 08/22/2014  4:59 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add xxmarkabyx to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Anybody have any opinions on this coin? Look authentic? Any opinions would be great!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/231266379899?nav=SEARCH
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 Posted 08/22/2014  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Check Victor's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Victor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You should ask for opinions on the seller...he is notorious.
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 Posted 08/22/2014  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xxmarkabyx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
His name and picture look a little shady
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 Posted 08/22/2014  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't like the look of the coin. I can't see anything similar in acsearch. I would stay away from that particular seller.
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 Posted 08/22/2014  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have serious doubts about this coin. Just doesn't look right to me.
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 Posted 08/23/2014  12:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The seller has been discussed a few times. I've purchased a couple of coins from him by using the "make offer" button. Both times I submitted reasonable offers based on real comparisons and both times my offers were accepted. They were a mere fraction of his pie-in-the-sky full price.

He deals in mostly low-end or "problem" coins but due to the sheer volume he stocks, sometimes you can find an obscure coin worth owning.

The Akragas in question appears authentic to me. The "73% off" price is still high for this particular example. A quick look at CNG's archives will give you an idea of what they have sold for in recent years: CNG archives, search terms "Akragas hemidrachm" There are a few "outliers" in terms of realized price but the ebay coin has some problems which detract. Still though... not a bad coin :)

Caveat, as usual... I am not an expert.
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 Posted 08/23/2014  07:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xxmarkabyx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, my concern is that the seller seems suspect, almost like a used car salesman, but nothing leaps out at me as being off with the actual coin.
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 Posted 08/23/2014  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuy1530 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The fact that he's selling stamp seals as 'tooth shaped coins' gives me enough concern that he could even differentiate between real and fake coins that I'd avoid him entirely.
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 Posted 08/23/2014  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Chuy, are you referring to his Akragas listing for the hexas? Those are considered cast coins, although I'm not sure of his nomenclature (hexas may be correct though)

4 pellets = 4/12 or 1/3 of a litra, aka "triens". 3 pellets = 3/12 or 1/4 litra, aka "quadrans".

More on these "tooth coins" and other cast coins/proto-coins on Doug Smith's website: http://www.forumancientcoins.com/do...ac56cas.html

...and examples from CNG's archives.
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 Posted 08/24/2014  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuy1530 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Huh, well I learned something today then. Could've sworn they were seal stamps.
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