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1934-35 Centenial Florin

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Specimen or Business Strike ?

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 Posted 08/22/2014  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it's a specimen, then it's an impaired specimen, and so to MY thinking, would now be equivalent to a business strike in the same condition due to minor scratching and possibly very slight wear. Beard detail is slightly dull; that could be due to the coin being a business strike, or very minor wear.

I am also thinking that it started out in life as a business strike. With high grade Centenary Florins, attention is paid to the garland detail on the rider's head when grading. I'm am inclined to think that the detail in this area is not sharp enough to suggest a specimen stike.
If a coin was struck to be a specimen, then that coin would have been one of the first to have been struck off the die, and detail would thus be quite sharp in this area.

If a specimen coin was lucky enough to be continually preserved since being struck, then you would indeed have an obviously a 'stand out' coin to the eye.
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I would say Die A which struck the specimens, but a specimen was just from the first 100 strikes and before removal of the nipple.
Could be wrong but I think having the nipple determines if it is a specimen or not.

I'm sure you have seen this because of the photos you put up, but just in case.

http://www.drakesterling.com/Custom...y_Florin.pdf
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Interesting! I see that even an acquaintance of mine (John Pettit) gets a mention!
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This is mine trout, pretty similar. [I think]

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Finally managed to get this to an acceptable size.

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@ darge
Does your coin have the die crack in the middle of RIA in Victoria and the small Cud on the horses right front elbow?
My coin is pretty "bagged up" hence only grading MS62 but there appears to be a "Nipple" where it should be
I think Sel nailed it , This could be an impaired specemine.
I am thinking of asking Walter or Eric Eigner to have a look at this for me.
As a determination about this coin only using images is pretty much impossible I imagine the ONLY way to find out for sure would be to have an expert look at the coin "in hand"
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Hi trout, sorry I thought I had subscribed to this topic and no one had replied, but I obviously forgot.

Yes mine has both of those features.
Does yours have numerous vertical striations on the right of the horse's head?

If the first 100 struck are considered to be specimens and then the nipple was ground off, then logic would suggest the next 100 at least would be 'specimen like' and therefore only the nipple differentiates.
I am pretty sure that a clear nipple is the criteria for value, along with no wear of course.
Hope that makes sense.
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