Portuguese Africa Coin Idenitification

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plonker Valued Member United States 462 Posts	Posted 08/24/2014 1:12 pm I got this coin some time back on a local estate sale. I am trying to figure out the exact denomination of the host coin and the counter stamped and rough value. The counter stamped coins from Portuguese Angola can be found in 1/2, 1 2, 4 Macuta denominations jut doing a quick seasrch on eBay/google. I am not sure what is the denomination of this coin. I tried to getting a close up but not sure how good it is. Thanks for the help. Report this Post to the Staff

Jupke Valued Member Belgium 83 Posts	Posted 08/24/2014 2:20 pm I took a quick look into the Krause Catalog of World Coins and found the original coins are issued for Angola. Since 2 and 4 macutas are silver based, they can be exluded. Based on the year of the original coin (1785), there are the following possibilities for copper coins: - 1/4 macuta , KM#27 (mintage: 13000 pcs), diameter approximately 31 mm - 1/2 macuta , KM#28 (mintage: 154000 pcs), diameter approximately 34 mm - 1 macuta, KM#20 (mintage: 194000 pcs), diameter approximately 44,5 mm If we retrace the counterstamped coinage (manufactured in 1837), following possibilities exist with an original coin of 1785 (according to Krause): - KM#49.2: 1/2 macuta on 1/4 macuta KM#27 (value USD: Good 4; VG 8; F 19; VF 42) - KM#50.2: 1 macuta on 1/2 macuta KM #28 (value USD: Good 8; VG 11; F 25; VF 48) - KM#51.2: 2 macuta on 1 macuta KM#20 (value USD: Good 6; VG 12; F 22; VF 45) Based on measuring the diameter you should be able to determine the correct determination. Report this Post to the Staff
plonker Valued Member United States 462 Posts	Posted 08/24/2014 5:32 pm Thank you much appreciated. It appears to be 2 macuta on 1 macuta. Report this Post to the Staff
plonker Valued Member United States 462 Posts	Posted 02/22/2015 7:45 pm just curious when grading the counter stamped coins, grading indicates the host coin state or the state counterstamp ? Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16810 Posts	Posted 02/22/2015 8:01 pm I believe Krause is using a net or overall coin grade. Ideally, the host and stamp should be graded separately, or the coin as a whole graded, then the grade of the stamp mentioned separately. I am not sure of the TPG attitude to this, but I presume it's the same as what Krause is using. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
plonker Valued Member United States 462 Posts	Posted 02/22/2015 8:19 pm Thank you Sap. Report this Post to the Staff
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