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Ali Express seems to be offering avery similar one for $59 .... It closely resembles this one and has 90% silver. The non-silver version sells for under $4! I tried to post a link but see that's now not allowed. Not complaining, mind you, but this strikes me as oddly ironic. We can post a link on CCF for a coin copy that's not described as such on ebay. Yet, we can't post a link to a site that sells copies which are properly described. I'm certainly no fan of Ali's site, but then, again, with each passing day, I'm becoming less of an ebay fan. Edited by ExoGuy
09/01/2014 1:08 pm
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United States
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I'm a dedicated eBayer and this stuff ticks me off. Some people have no scruples.
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Yet, we can't post a link to a site that sells copies which are properly described. It's the unlabeled copies that got them banned here. That, and you can buy anything under the sun counterfeited on that site - bags, jewelry, clothing, etc. They're the world's largest purveyor of fakes. |
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SsuperDdave ... Ii understand the reasoning here ... Jjust seems ironic ... Tthat's all. ;-)
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At least nobody's bidding on it.
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Jjust seems ironic ... Tthat's all. ;-) The worst part is considering putting ebay on a similar status. |
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Quote:The worst part is considering putting ebay on a similar status. That's true, Dave, yet in the coin department, ebay's been going downhill for years now. They say no more copies, yet if one does a search for "COPY" under coins, well over a thousand hits pop up. While I'm no fan of Ali's fake coins, they do offer coin supplies and a wide variety of other products at competitive prices. I'll bet that many of their coin copies, at least sold by Ali as such, have wound up on ebay; this, as I suspect the subject "coin" of this thread may have been. The lettering in the legend is quite similar, methinks. |
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Red flag. Why the weight is not disclosed on the listing if the seller says the coin has been weighed and is spot on?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Someone who isn't looking too closely at that one would probably bid, but not at the $999 start. Hopefully it will stay there.
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Can someone please tell me what immediately makes this look fake?
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Russian Federation
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modern nickel fake. [URL="http://fastpic.ru/]  [/URL] |
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Can someone please tell me what immediately makes this look fake?
In my case - as well as everyone else who's offered an opinion - it's the thousands of them we've already looked at which make this one stand out. All the detail is close - it's a pretty good fake - but nothing's right on it, especially the stars. |
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Additionally, look at the "feet" of the letters in the legend "United States of America." They are not as much flat or level as they are cloven, like hooves. If this coin was genuine, would the BIN price be so low? Any respectable dealer would have paid that BIN for a genuine, apparently XF 1795 coin, and the seller could thereby save time and fees. Why is it not certified?
As Dave points out, this is a pretty good looking fake, and it may even have silver within, like the ones that Ali sells. It sure resembles those, but I was not allowed to post a link to that website; this, per CCF policy.
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Can someone please tell me what immediately makes this look fake? I could tell that it was a fake just at first glance. It just has THAT look we have seen over and over again, as SD pointed out. Virtually all of them have the same XF-ish wear and tear appearance. I have an example of this particular fake coin in my possession, as well as many other dates. I bought these in order to learn the differences between genuine and counterfeit silver dollars. I have attached pictures below. It weighs 20.34 grams and has a 38.74 mm diameter. It is a very good fake. At least mine has the word "COPY" stamped on the back. I bought all my "copy" coins on Amazon.com. I know some would frown upon buying these for any reason, but they have been a tremendous tool in helping me learn to spot fakes on ebay, which is virtually the only place I shop for coins. Compare/contrast mine with the one in the auction:   Edited by Darth Morgan
09/02/2014 12:40 am
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Oh My Gosh- someone just bought it for the BIN price of $1895.00! I paid $1.90 for mine. So sad.   I just noticed that this seller appears to have the same 18% gray background that I use for my photographs. I can assure you that this isn't me.  I go by darth_underoo on ebay. I only say this because I know we have some wicked smart coin detectives on CCF.  EDIT: Added a combined photo for better comparison:  It is also important to note that not all of these fake bust silver dollars are identical. Some have more wear that others and sometimes the spacing of the letters and dates is considerably different from coin to coin. Edited by Darth Morgan
09/02/2014 12:41 am
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