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unholyroller Pillar of the Community United States 1903 Posts	Posted 09/02/2014 12:33 am What I do walk away from it with is that for what are some common landmarks, there are far more differences between these two coins than similarities. How few coins did they strike per die? Seems a lot of work to make so many dies for fakes. Report this Post to the Staff
Darth Morgan Pillar of the Community United States 2815 Posts	Posted 09/02/2014 12:49 am Quote: there are far more differences between these two coins than similarities. That is correct. I have multiples of this one coin, and no two are exactly alike. Some are VERY weakly struck, and others have much sharper details, which still only amount to XF. From what I can see, the spacing of the numbers in the dates vary quite a bit, as well as the position of the date. I have yet to see one of these coins that look minty fresh, so I theorize that the dies themselves are created much "weaker" than a brand new mint die. But that's just a thought. Report this Post to the Staff
Darth Morgan Pillar of the Community United States 2815 Posts	Posted 09/02/2014 12:56 am I just noticed that the 2 stars to the left of "L" in LIBERTY are completely different from the stars in the auction photo. I'm going to pull my other ones to see if I can find one that matches the ebay coin in this regard. EDIT: OK, For the sake of interest, I've added a comparison photo of 2 1796 coins and a 1797. The 1797 fake has stars that more closely resemble those of the ebay coin. I checked all the 1795 coins, and they all have the same 2 wider stars to the left of the "L" in LIBERTY. Some of the 1796 coins also have these, but some appear more like the 1797. If you look at the 4:00 position on all three coins, you can actually see what appears to be a die crack progression getting worse over time. The 1797 was made from a different die, of course, but this appears to be a problem in the manufacturing of these counterfeits. Maybe this is a common weak spot on the dies from uneven pressure during the striking process? I ask this because the strike quality is all over the place on these things. close-up of die cracks: Edited by Darth Morgan 09/02/2014 01:50 am Report this Post to the Staff
DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 09/02/2014 01:27 am One thing I noticed--a 1795 dollar shouldn't look like it was struck in a collar. Report this Post to the Staff
jimbucks Pillar of the Community United States 4692 Posts	Posted 09/02/2014 02:08 am Someone just paid a lot of money for a fake. What do the TPGs do when a fake is submitted? Report this Post to the Staff
g048406 Pillar of the Community 861 Posts	Posted 09/02/2014 03:42 am The counterfeit Koin in the auction is known as the "Dracula", and can easily be identified by the 2 fang marks on Lady Liberty's neck. Report this Post to the Staff
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