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Unknown Silver UK Coin

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 Posted 09/12/2014  06:20 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add vince1977 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all,

Ive got this coin in my collection. Which looks like an 3 or 6 pence coin. But I can't find the similair head which is on my coin.
If I compare it with other coins it should be alround 1400-1550 but mine has an big head on it.

Who can help me identify this one..
Maybe it is not UK but scotland or ireland/wales?

it weigths 1,81 grams is damaged.
diamter is 24 mm





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 Posted 09/12/2014  07:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Red to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe it's a Henry VIII Silver Groat.
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 Posted 09/12/2014  07:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kefiroth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At a glance, it appears to be a groat (4 pence) of Henry VIII. I'll leave it to someone with more expertise to attribute the mint and other finer details.
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 Posted 09/12/2014  08:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vince1977 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your reactions! Then it should probably something be like this one below?
On internet it says that these coins are scarce ammon the UK coins.



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On the obverse with the shield you see at the bottom an small cross. Is this the mintmark? I posted an 6 pence from elizabeth which had aswell the same cross. Probably same mint? On that case it was fifth issue...
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If you're talking about the very bottom, I think those tiny crosses just ornament the ends of the long cross fourchee. The mintmark is in line with the letters of the legend.
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 Posted 09/13/2014  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vince1977 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WHich mint mark is it then? Or you can't see it due the damage?
Is it an groat or an 4 pence...
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A groat IS fourpence. This is too large to be a halfgroat, though.
The mintmark is at the beginning of the legend on both sides. On your reverse pic, with the legend POSVI DEV ADIVTORE MEV, it would be just to the right of the upper end of the long cross; can't see much in this pic. The obverse looks more promising. We can read HENRIC at the upper right, so the mintmark is just to the left of the H. The left side of it is awfully obscured in this pic, but here's a table of all the mintmarks of Henry VIII's coinage:
http://www.psdetecting.com/Mintmark...ml#HenryVIII
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 Posted 09/13/2014  11:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vince1977 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is very hard to see. You only can see a small thing. Thx for the website! I would say it looks most to the Cross Patonce. Then it would be canterbury mint. if that is possible? The Lis is aswell possible.


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