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Grover Cleveland Presidential Dollar

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 Posted 08/23/2007  11:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He put on 30 pounds while he was out of office, they're going to make his face slightly fatter on the second coin so you will be able to tell the difference.
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 Posted 08/23/2007  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TSmith3510 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote Sagan: "It's in the law passed that he gets two coins, it was Congress that made the descion, not the mint. :)"

So it's Congress making all these fine decisions, hmmm. Do they have a special comittee or what? Does anybody know who runs it?
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 Posted 08/24/2007  12:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sagan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe it's the House Financial Services Commitee (there is a commitee for everything in congress ). The text of law is below, it's also dicates the 2009 Lincoln Cent and the First Spouse buillion coins.

http://www.publicaster.com/info/USM..._of_2005.pdf

Page 5 (Sec 102, B. 3. ii.) says two non-consecutive terms get 2 coins. ;)
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 Posted 08/24/2007  08:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds like the right thing to do since he had those non consecutive terms. Since these coins are supposed to be educational, that would have to be the only way to properly indicate that. However, as with all of us, we get older and change so they really should have a completely different image on the coin for him. Since there may not be a lot of accurate photos or painting of him anyway, the government could just put anything on the coin and say it was him anyway. A Mohawk haircut? HMMMM maybe the solution.
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Do they have a special committee or what? Does anybody know who runs it?


The committee is the House Committee on Financial Services, which has jurisdiction over banking and the securities and insurance industries. Mike Castle(R-Del) is a member of that committee and he is the legislator that proposed the 50 State Quarter Program and the Presidential dollar Program. He is not the committee chariman but he is pretty much the main guy in Congress to sponsor numismatic related bills and I believe that he is a collector himself.
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If Hillary gets elected, we'd get to see Bill on a First Spouse coin.
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I am guessing that Bill probably won't make it to either coin. He would have to be dead two years before he gets a Presidential dollar and that probably won't happen. I assume that a spouse will only be issued if the corresponding President qualifies and that means Hillary would actually have to get elected(doubtful, but that is for general discussion) and then die two years before her scheduled coin would appear.
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I assume that a spouse will only be issued if the corresponding President qualifies

I'd say that is probably true. Interestingly, if the president qualifies for their coin and the spouse is still alive they can still appear on their coin. While the legislation forbids a living president from appearing, it does NOT forbid a living First Spouse from being on a coin. Ladybird is now out of the running, Betty Ford still has a chance but she will be close to 100, Roseline Carter would be about 91, Nancy Reagan would be 96 or so, and Barbara Bush about 92. None of them have a good chance of seeing their coin. If something happens to Bill though, then Hillary does have a good chance of seeing hers. She'll only be about 73 or so. But Bill dying before he is 70 probably isn't real likely.
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Cleveland will and should have two different coins. The period of service (22nd & 24th President) and years of service are different.

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But Bill dying before he is 70 probably isn't real likely.


Some STDs are fatal.
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Yes, but presidents and former presidents have a fantastic health care package.
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Any member of Congress can propose a coinage bill and include anything into it. The bills are read and sent to the proper committee to be studied. They are usually rewitten several times to gain support and additional sponcers before they are voted on by the full house and if passed sent on the the Senate(or House if the bill is from the Senate) The Senate can do nothing and let it die, use the same bill or write their own version. If passed the two versions must be reconsiled and a final version must then pass both the house and senate before going on to the President. This is why most coinage bills die but that may be changing soon. Two bills, one each in the house and senate(HR 3330,S 1986), were introduced just before congress went to recess. These bills would give the Treasury Secretary the power to change the composition of American coinage. Its called "Coinage Materials Modernization Act of 2007'." and seems to be on the fast track to the Presidents desk.
I can see Canadian like plated steel coins in our future. Plus I predict that the huge savings will be sited in future bills that will give the Treasury More power over our coinage. (Eliminate the cent and maybe the one dollar bill?)

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Yes I think we are going to get copper plated steel cents also. I would rather they just eliminate the cent though.
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