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Pillar of the Community
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Valued Member
United States
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They turned that thing into a piece of art if you ask me.
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Valued Member
United States
206 Posts |
Can you give me a definition of conservation? It sounds alot like cleaning coins which IS NOT GOOD.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Conservation is somehow not considered cleaning. The methods they use are proprietary apparently because I've been looking into them for a couple of months now and can't figure out how they do it. I give, I'm going to send them a couple valuable coins to let them work their magic.
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Valued Member
United States
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I sent a St. Gauden $20 gold coin to NCS because there appeared to be some PVC or something stuck on the coin. They cleaned it off and then sent it on to NGC who graded it MS61, which was more than I thought it would get.
If you have a damaged coin, send it to them and they will try to conserve or fix it. If it can't be graded by NGC, they will put it in a NCS slab and say what is wrong with it.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I too suspect it is a form of cleaning. I too have cleaned many coins and attempted to have them graded by a TPG. Some are and some are not accepted. To remove any greenish substance from a Copper coin is not likely to go unnoticed. The one on this advertisement may or may not be just a lucky stroke of cleaning and they may have a thing with NGC to slab them anyway. Not sure. I just don't trust this. For a resonably low priced coin it may be a decent experiment but for a rare type coin, I just wouldn't want to take a chance. Especially with an organization that stipulates the green is from PVC and with no idea of Copper Carbonate, Copper Sulfite, Copper Sulfate and many other compounds of Copper being green. |
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Scott Travers talks about this service in more than one of his books. It sounds like a good idea when a coin is corroding rapidly, has gunk on it, or is otherwise bound to deteriorate further. They are closely affiliated with NGC, and will send a coin to them for you if you want NGC grading. But they each get their own fee, so NGC has no greater incentive to slab or not than normal.
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Valued Member
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Oh, and yes, it's cleaning (but they, and Travers, calls it "conserving" when it's done right). But when people say "leave it to the experts", these are the experts.
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Pillar of the Community
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I've used them on several coins and they've done a great job.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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NCS accepts for evaluation all certified or raw coins, tokens and medals. NCS can remove contaminants such as PVC, soils, tarnish, carbon spots, verdigris and encrustation from the surface. NCS does not perform repairs or mechanical alterations of any kind. Removing detrimental material from the surface of an item may dramatically improve its appearance and eye appeal. This service is designed to further preserve the originality of the material only and prevent the damage that can result from contamination that is left untreated.
There is really no reason to doubt the skill and credibility of NCS considering that they were entrusted to conserve and preserve the National Numismatic Collection at the Smithsonian. Many of those coins had been waxed, laquered, and generally improperly handled/stored through the decades, yet they represent possibly the single greatest collection in existance today.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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When you do it it's cleaning, when they do it it's conserving. quote:
There is really no reason to doubt the skill and credibility of NCS considering that they were entrusted to conserve and preserve the National Numismatic Collection at the Smithsonian.
True, but they have also ruined their share of coins as well. |
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United States
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"True, but they have also ruined their share of coins as well."  And the pieces that are not botched eventually find their way into PCGS holders. The NCS service can be quite lucrative to those who know the answer to the OP title; "NCS, is it worth it?" In other cases of holed/plugged or "improperly cleaned coins;" I agree with Bonedigger's understatement, "I think they are stating the obvious" |
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I think the cleaned,plugged,scratched or what ever may be wrong with a coin NCS is just there to authenticate the coin like ANACS does so everyone knows it is not a fake coin but has problems
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Pillar of the Community
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If that one coin is any indication their work is amazing. It almost makes me want to start buying problem coins and then send them to NCS. If I had a lot of money to just play with I might even experiment with that as a possible business practice.
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Valued Member
United States
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"I had a lot of money to just play with I might even experiment with that as a possible business practice."
Many, including myself, do it on the side. There is virtually no risk involved, especially with key dates or perceived key dates. The only overhead is time and submission fees.
Best case scenario: you buy a problem coin and after 2 months and $80 in sub fees your end result is a problem free, perceived original coin holdered with a PCGS label.
Worst case scenario: you buy a problem coin and after 2 months and $80 in sub fees your end result is a problem coin.
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