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1956-D LWC RPM Completely Stumped

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I have been looking at this one every night for the last week and the only thing I have accomplished is to become more frustrated. The mm looks rotated ccw (I think, I assume the direction cw or ccw refers to the top image) but my main problem is that I cannot find a match to the mm location at coppercoins. The mm is above the tail of the 9 which eliminates all but 024, 025, 026 and 028 (assuming my assumption about the direction of cw/ccw is correct). None of the markers match on any of the four; for example, the flow lines are in the opposite direction. I have also tried coneca but to be honest, I have difficulty matching without pictures of the markers. If I am correct about the ccw rotation, what am I missing? Thanks!


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1956D-1MM-025







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Looks like an rpm to me too.
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10/04/2014 12:37 am
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trick to find a match

in photoshop up the threshold and then line up in layers to do overlay.

if side by side does match I do a overlay

just need to rotate and enlarge and it matches

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it just need slight rotation and enlargement to match

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Dead on match for 1956D-1MM-025. Nice find.

It is not a RPD. It is a RPM. A RPM is a RePunched Mint mark. A RPD is a RePunched Date. Repunched dates are 19th century thing. Did happen in the 20th century. The 1942/1 Dimes and the 1943/2 Nickels happened because the die hubbed with two different year hubs. On the 19th century coins the dates were added to the dies. Hand punched. The 20th century dies were hubbed with a complete hub. SO they are not repunched dates.
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Quote:
It is not a RPD. It is a RPM. A RPM is a RePunched Mint mark. A RPD is a RePunched Date.
Yeah...I know, that was a typo.
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Not a problem, but always nice to have the correct information on the thread.
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The mm is a match to 025, but none of the other markers match. The flow lines in front of Lincolns face and at the C are in the opposite direction. The markers on the T in Liberty do not match either. Below are the pics of the coin (I started to post comparison pics from coppercoins, but did not know if that was appropriate or not). Can this be an 025 of those markers are so different? Still new at this just trying to learn.

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Markers are nice to have a match when attributing a coin. But events that happened before/after a clash that maybe in in different directions. Still does not disqualify the die number. Checking die wear might tell if the die that struck your coin was earlier than the example you are comparing with. Less die wear, earlier die state. More die wear later die state. But something that might help is to check next to devices and inside devices. The die scratches on the fields flatten with time. But the areas next to/inside devices can still show some previous die scratches. So it might be an area to look for previous die scratches. But don't concern you self without the markers. It is just nice to find them if they are there. I like it when images are taken to match the ones on coppercoins. It helps a lot.
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My 1956D-1MM-025 ANACS confirmed.


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