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My 1935 D Washington Quarter

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 Posted 10/10/2014  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Send it back

If it only had one problem you might be ont he fence but 2 problems no way.
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 Posted 10/11/2014  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tryna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am just wondering what would you state as your reason for the return. Did he describe it as other than an MS61 with toning? Did he show one coin and send you another?

Or is it just that he is a better photographer and can take a picture that accents the positives and down plays the negatives?

You said you paid $190 for this.

Numismedia lists a 1935-D at $172.50 at AU58

in MS60 $216.00
in MS61 $228.00

you paid $32 less than list. It is not the most beautiful coin but MS61 seldom are beautiful.

From here it looks like you paid the price for an AU and are upset that you did not receive a MS63.

Just my opinion.
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 Posted 10/11/2014  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jon K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would suggest that the photo was done "too well". While not shopped, the seller lit the piece and almost certainly turned the lights to make the coin appear nicer than it really is. I do the same thing.

But I do try not to deceive. Maybe the seller got lucky.

There is a fine line and certainly not black and white.

I am currently struggling with the same dilemma. I recently bought a "63" coin from a flattering photo that completely obscured a meteor strike to the nose. I pulled it out and as Charlie Brown would say; "Rats!". I will decide today whether to flip it or return it. Problem being that if/when I sell it I will feel quite obligated to portray it accurately.

So I may not recoup my cost. That is why I am considering a return. Yes, it is a 63, but not the 63 that I want and thought I was getting.

I have only returned one coin ever. And it was the completely wrong coin. Most of the time condition can be accurately assessed by the photograph.
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 Posted 10/11/2014  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's in a 61 holder because that's what NGC thought it should be AT THE TIME THEY GRADED IT.

If you get it cleaned, conserved (whatever they call it now) it might go higher or it might get the "details" treatment.

It is a crapshoot. To me it is not worth the gamble. Send it back.
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 Posted 10/13/2014  12:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jon K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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If you get it cleaned, conserved (whatever they call it now) it might go higher or it might get the "details" treatment.


I was under the impression that if it gets conserved and goes "details" or a lower grade that the guarantee would kick in.

Both PCGS and NGC/NCS.

I have never used either service, but I researched PCGS a while back and seems I was pretty clear that they would guarantee the grade after conservation.
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