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Classic Coins Losing Moxey?

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The average age of collectors now is in their mid fifties. Forty years ago when I started collecting the average age was in their mid fifties. Go back to the old coin periodicals of the 1940's and look at the pictures of the collectors in the "Club News" section and you will find that they are in their mid fifties. Go back to the pictures of the collectors attending the first ANA conventions at the beginning of the 20th century, they are in their mid fifties. For over a hundred years the average age of the collector has been mid fifties. I don't see that changing.

HOWEVER, the group in their mid fifties right now is the baby boomer generation, the largest generational group. As they die off in 25 to 35 years, the following generation will be a little smaller. But I don't think that small decrease will have that much of an effect, and then the generation sizes start growing again.
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Whoopee! I'm average!
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For over a hundred years the average age of the collector has been mid fifties.



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Whoopee! I'm average!




I'm above average. LOL
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After spending quite abit of time on this forum the past few months, I'm amazed at how many people once they inherit a collection feel the need to nurture and grow the collection once their loved ones are gone. I think it helps them to connect with their loved ones even after they are gone. More often then not they come here more interested & drawn into the hobby instead of looking for advice to hawk off their legacies.
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If the avg. age of collectors has remained stable at mid 50's, that means the number of collectors has GROWN tremendously. People are living MUCH longer than they were 50 years ago.
Coin stores are rapidly being replaced with pawn stores. Collectors, and their heirs, used to be relegated to selling their coins at pennies on the dollar as they only had friends and coin stores to sell to. Today, they can get nearly full value by selling on ebay. It is now effortless to be able to find/obtain ANY coin in any grade.....20 years ago, it could take months/years to locate that specific coin. The coin hobby/market will continue to grow for these reasons. JMO
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Classics are basically all I collect (and ultra Classics..Colonials).

YN's start out with moderns but will end up here eventually (or just quit all together..lose interest).

Seen this for the 30 years I've collected. That's why it's important to keep the fire burning ;-)
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As they(mid fifties) die off in 25 to 35 years, the following generation will be a little smaller.


This would seem to imply that the average size of future collectors' collections would have to grow: the same or continually-increasing number of existing collectable coins being spread around amongst fewer collectors.

Following traditional auction guidelines, for example in my explanation, past documented supply and demand behaviors dictate that when fewer people are bidding on the same or greater amount of coins a lower sales price is very often realized.

Case in point:

I cannot tell you how many auctions I have attended in which I've stuck it out to the very last sale of the action.

In these particular events where 20 bidders initially existed but eventually dwindled down to 2 or 3 near the auction's end, the final sales price 'generally' realized included a significant discount compared to what the same coin could have sold for had a greater number of bidders been present.
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Potential conclusions to take away from this above FACT in the previous post:

1) Assuming one agrees with the last paragraph of the previous post the overall market 20 years from now could conceivably drive down the resale pricing on the same or more quantity of collectable coins as a result of the attrition-based diminishing coin collector population:

a. baby boomer population 1946 to 1964: 76 million
b. generation X 1965 to 1980: 41 million

2) Coin hoarders will always exist, however, no matter what the size of their population is but the % of them categorized as hoarders should stay relatively the same irrespective of what the actual number of collectors is.

Even though these types of very scarce classic coins would typically increase in value over time, even the hoarders will eventually sell their prized stock as they meet the advanced age realm.

So it would be an incorrect deduction to state that more of the highly collectible coins will be off the market and unable to find causing an elevation in prices; the contingent % argument previous alluded to stays in effect no matter what the collector population is.

3) Not to hijack the thread but this final conclusion should be a means to the betterment of one's personal coin collection w/r/t ROI:

Strive to always remain until the very last auction item is placed on the block since many of the better deals are realized at the end emanating from notably fewer numbers of bidders attending.

Keep the best and leave the rest,

IMHO,
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