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A Double Thaler Klippe For 4 Euros? Too Good To Be True!

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www.ebay.com/itm/161451337176

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10/16/2014 04:38 am
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1. http://www.forgerynetwork.com/asset...oVosYQ7sLB0=
2. let me translate the following from what the seller states:

Ich bin kein Händler, sondern nach BGB eine Privatperson und schließe hiermit die nach neuem EU-Recht vorgeschriebene Garantie und Umtauschrecht von einem Jahr auf alle hier angebotenen Produkte aus. ... Da es sich um einen Privatverkauf handelt, gehen Sie mit der Abgabe eines Gebotes eine Kaufverpflichtung ein ...

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I am not a dealer but under German law a private person and herewith specifically exclude for all offered items the guarantee and return right for up to a year as prescribed by EU-law ... Since it is a private deal any offer from you implies a legal commitment to complete the deal.
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Umm, if something like this went to court, any lawyer would easily tear it apart. ;) The BGB was indeed adapted (in 2002) to meet the requirements of an EU directive regarding certain warranty and liability issues. Such phrases in ebay (and similar) sales, however, are often misleading and usually null and void ...

Christian
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Christian, it's not an issue of what would happen if anyone would go to court (if someone would do this over a minor [as compared to solicitor fees] amount) but rather an indication of the character of the seller. What is a guarantee worth if a very strong 'no returns under any circumstances' is stated?
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Agreed, hardly anybody would take such a case to court. My point was primarily that "no returns" is not as simple as some ebay sellers seem to believe. If you buy a coffee maker from an ebay seller, and it does not work when you get it, you can of course return it. With the klippe here it may be more difficult - I would buy this assuming it's a copy, nothing else. :) Besides, a private seller referring to European and German law but with an "Item location" in "Algoma, WI, United States", that sure sounds like an alert to me. Yes - do not touch unless you like the design and do not mind getting a copy or counterfeit ...

Christian
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