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I don't recognise the portrait, any suggestions?

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I can't read the legend, but this type of obverse is rare and I've seen it used on coins of Constantine and family.
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Might have a pop at it then. Thought it might make a nice cleaning project.
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licinius ii I believe pish, like this one..

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This is a fairly common obverse type used for Licinius II for the VIRTVS EXERCIT type, especially from Siscia.

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licinius ii I believe pish, like this one..


Yes, but the example you linked to is a bit rarer than the ones commonly found from Siscia because it is from Ticinum and has an Iota-Chi in the left field of the reverse.
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Thought it might make a nice cleaning project.


Show the reverse, perhaps it can be fully identified before you start cleaning it.

Postscript:

And it definitely is Licinius II, can read most of the legend LICINIVS IVN NOB CAES quite clearly.
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I will post the reverse if I win it.
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The lower face details look very different.
My thoughts are that your coin may have been tooled sometime in the distant past, and may have been naturally or artifically re patinated.

It is still somewhat of a to me.
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My thoughts are that your coin may have been tooled sometime in the distant past, and may have been naturally or artifically re patinated.


I don't think so, it looks merely like shadows from the lighting, evidenced also by some of the letters in the legend, mainly the N of NOB and also the B to a lesser extent.
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Go for it PP, not an obverse you come across very often.
You will never soar like an eagle if you hang around with turkeys.....
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I won!
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I am thinking it might be:
Licinius II, AE Follis, Siscia. 320 AD.

LICI-NIVS IVN NOB CAES, laureate, draped bust left, holding
Victory and mappa
VIRTVS-EXERCIT, two captives seated at the foot of a
standard inscribed VOT X.
S-F over HL across fields.
Mintmark Gamma SIS star

RIC VII Siscia 125, rated R4.
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Although looking at it again there appears to be star over crescent in ex.

Licinius II, AE3, 320, Siscia, Officina 4
LICI_NIVS IVN NOB CAES
Laureate, cuirassed bust left, Victory on globe in right hand, scepter in left
VIRTVS-EXERCIT
Standard inscribed VOT / X, captive seated on ground on either side S | F / HL (ligate) in fields
DSIS star in crescent in exergue
18mm x 19mm, 3.07g RIC VII, --

Note: RIC does not list the I series bust type with cuirass alone.

And no mention of rarity.
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Although looking at it again there appears to be star over crescent in ex.


That's quite clear. As per some other details, wait until you have the coin in hand so that you can look at it from different angles/light.

Good to see you happy, guess it cost less than your Cesar.
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£3.20 with free shipping! Can't really lose :)
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