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Japanese 4 Mon Coin With Marking On Rim?

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 Posted 10/25/2014  3:46 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Mike100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have a coin that I've identified as a Japanese 4 Mon coin. My grandfather brought it back from WWII when he was in the South Pacific. As pictured, it has some Japanese characters on the rim. I have searched online and see no other example of this. I have identified the characters from right to left as THREE, DAY(SUN), MONTH(MOON) and VILLAGE? Seems like this might be a date? Wondering if anyone knows if the coin was made this way or if this inscription was made later? It's a bit of a mystery to me. Thanks!


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 Posted 10/25/2014  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add packrat1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've never seen any like this either so my guess would be that the coin was stamped.

Could you show a straight on picture of the reverse side?
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 Posted 10/26/2014  06:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bungle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your identification of each character is correct.

Together they are pronounced Mikazukimura
The characters are Mi (Three) Ka (Sun) (Tsuki) Mura (Village)
The tsu sound becomes dzu or zu in the middle of words.

It is a theme park token, from this place: http://www.mikazukimura.com
Inside the park, food stands only accept the tokens.

I think they refer to them as 1 mon, to avoid confusion.
Inside the park, you can exchange 100 yen for 1 mon.

This theme park opened in 1998, but I hope your grandfather got back before then...
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 Posted 10/26/2014  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info. Bungle. I had this coin (token) in a box with a lot of other coins, including several that my grandfather had brought back. Some from The Philippines, etc. Guess I was wrong about it's exact origin.
I've traveled to Japan several times, but only once since 1998. I certainly never visited that theme park. Really strange. I have no idea how I came to have this. It's also interesting that it REALLY does look like a very old coin. :) Don't worry, my grandfather hasn't been a POW since the 40's. Lol!
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 Posted 10/26/2014  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add manymore to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
bungle -

Shin Kanei coins tend to be well-made.

The top character (寬) on this coin is not written correctly.

There appears to be an extra vertical line to the left of the 宀.

Do you know if this was intentional in order to differentiate it from an authentic coin?

Gary
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 Posted 10/27/2014  01:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bungle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gary,

I found an old newspaper article that says they are basically replicas.

It should be cheaper to make them in bulk, and they wouldn't be dirty and you know exactly what they are made of, be sure they have no lead etc.

Probably the extra vertical line is to differentiate from a real one as you say.
It was not too long ago that they were exchangeable for rin, and collectors might get angry if they were perfect replicas.

You would write 宀 with three strokes.
First the top vertical line, second the vertical line on the left.
So it doesn't look too unnatural to me.
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Very interesting information.

Thanks!
Gary
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