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Judd-145 Gold Dollar pattern coin. Um, yeah, if real it's the cornerstone of a collection.  This coin was part of an exploration by the Mint to seek a Gold Dollar which was larger than the tiny circulating coin. Didn't pan out, because the ejection mechanisms on the Mint presses had trouble handling the open center. There are maybe 35 or so of these known in all metals - they were struck in silver and copper as well - and many were restrikes from years after the 1852 date. The gold examples had both thin and thick planchets, either 25 or 32 grains, which don't differ in value. The label you show was originated by the collector/dealer who owned the coin. The grade - Proof-63 - is therefore subjective on the part of that person and isn't necessarily accurate. This coin absolutely needs to be authenticated and encapsulated by one of the reputable third-party graders, because if undamaged you can assume its' value to reach well into five figures.
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The reverse side of the label and the invoice, I believe indicate that the coin was bought in 1977 from I think the name of Robert C. Hughes; (but I am not certain that is correct), in Beverly Hills CA., and cost $5,000. The collection is in a vault in multiple S/D boxes. Due to my lack of coin knowlewdge I am trying to find out if there are reputable coin dealers in the Dallas / Ft Worth area and how I should procede with determining value of the entire collection. I appreciate any help I might be afforded.
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Quote: Due to my lack of coin knowlewdge I am trying to find out if there are reputable coin dealers in the Dallas / Ft Worth area and how I should procede with determining value of the entire collection. I appreciate any help I might be afforded. We can help. Does an inventory of the collection exist, that we might know denominations/dates/mint marks? As you understand, differing issues vary greatly in value by scarcity and condition. The appropriate place to liquidate this coin - a major, advertised coin auction - isn't necessarily the place to move the lesser-value pieces in the collection. A dealer, understandably, would want compensation to look over and price a large collection. If you can supply us with enough information, we can do that for free. 
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: I am trying to find out if there are reputable coin dealers in the Dallas / Ft Worth area Nice location, that just happens to be the home of Heritage Auctions- the largest numismatic auction house in the world. If you have more coins of a similar value to this pattern(4-5 figures), Heritage would definitely be interested in your consignment.
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Woah, that is quite an inheritance!
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We did an inventory of the coins and medals, it is 13 hand written pages. I will try and photograph a couple of pages and see if that will work. If that doesn't work I will have them scanned and try and post them that way.
Some of the silver dollars: 1 page
1879-p gem bu 1880-p frosty g-bu 1882-o gem bu 1884-p gem bu 1895-o xf 45 1892-s xf 40 1922 peace bu 65 1887-p morgan bu 65 1879-cc morgan xf 1892-cc xf there are 2 of them 1889-cc xf+ 10 rolls (20 coins each) Eisenhower silver dollars 1 roll (20 coins) 1904-o silver dollars ms 65
loose silver dollars:
1889 1890 (3 ea) 1886 1923 (4 ea) 1921 (2 ea) 1922 (5 ea) 1881 (2 ea) 1891 1883 (3 ea) 1885 (3 ea) 1900 (2 ea) 1880 1901 1896 1878 1884
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Quote: Nice location, that just happens to be the home of Heritage Auctions- the largest numismatic auction house in the world. If you have more coins of a similar value to this pattern(4-5 figures), Heritage would definitely be interested in your consignment.
I had Heritage in mind, but they're inappropriate for the lesser pieces in the collection. The OP coin is definitely Heritage material.
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SsuperDdaye, is the OP coin the J-145?
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Yes, "OP" being an acronym for Original Post or Original Poster.
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THIS is the reason I'm a long-term member on this Forum. Man, I LOVE this stuff!! 
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Amazing inheritance. Although I do not specialize in this 1852 gold coin, I can give you a little info about your silver dollars. With that roll of 1904 O MS 65, each coin is worth a little under $200. The 1895 O in XF45 is worth $650+, in XF40 it is worth around $550. 1892 S in XF40 is worth around $330. All of your 'CC' Morgan dollars are going to be worth a lot of money, with that 1889 being the star of them all, since there were only 350,000 minted. In that condition your 1889 CC is worth 3500+. Any 1921 Peace dollars are also going to be worth a lot depending on the grade.
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Just remember, never clean them. You can take a 3500+ dollar coin and flush it down the toilet in a few swipes of a cleaning agent. Keep them as they are, and get most graded.
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Thanks for all help folks, I will try and post some more of the silver dollars tomorrow. I am getting excited.
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Rest in Peace
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Quote: I am getting excited. As are we.  to CCF.
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