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I took a macro photograph of the water lines magnified and printed on an 8 x 10 sheet to send along with the coin. The line layout was identical to that of the ones pictured in Charlton and still no go on the review. So go figure. If anyone has an ICCS graded 51 SWL to post for comparison, we can have a look.
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11/01/2014 12:23 pm
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CoinHunter- Let us know how you make out with ICCS. I have the same problem with my certified 1950. They didn't attribute it as a SWL even though no lines are close to touching the canoe. Is this only ICCS or does CCCS have the same standards?   |
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JimmyD. As mentioned in the initial posting. ICC will not attribute the 51 as a SWL.
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JimmyD your 1950 dollar is also a FWL like the 1951. Your dollar was not mis-attributed by ICCS. The best way to describe what to look for in a SWL dollar is it is only has 2 1/2 waterlines. 1.) No waterlines touch the canoe. 2.) Each waterline is progressively shorter than the last. 3.) The last waterline is only 1/2 a waterline and is usually very short and more like 1/4 of a waterline. In the picture of the 1951 dollar the last waterline is clearly longer than the second waterline and looks like a FWL like the top waterline. The waterlines not touching the front of the canoe is just one of the markers of a SWL. Just because the waterlines do not touch the front of the canoe will not automatically make it a SWL. I have checked many dollars for SWL and these are much harder to find than most collectors realize. Also, Arnprior dollars have the same characteristics as SWL dollars, except arnpriors have just 1 1/2 waterlines and SWL's have 2 1/2 waterlines. I hope this helps explain the differences.  |
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Thanks for the explanation Wireman. One of the perks of this forum is that there is always some one more knowledgable to explain things. Being a novice at collecting varieties, I was just going by the explanation of waterlines in the Charlton Catalogue. (page 202 68th Edition)
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It's a mute point at this stage of the game but here are some references. The 1951 in this thread  Charlton reference to the SWL variety  Charlton reference to Arnprior  FWL  Edited by TheCoinHunter
11/02/2014 2:33 pm
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Here is a un-certified example of a 1950 SWL. If I were to send this dollar to ICCS it would come back as a SWL. I don't know how to take a close up picture of the waterlines as my photo skills are limited.  |
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The best way to describe what to look for in a SWL dollar is it is only has 2 1/2 waterlines.
1.) No waterlines touch the canoe.
2.) Each waterline is progressively shorter than the last.
3.) The last waterline is only 1/2 a waterline and is usually very short and more like 1/4 of a waterline. This 1950 was sold to me as an SWL, not certified.  This 1951 was sold to me as an SWL not certified.
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11/02/2014 9:11 pm
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Both dollars are definitely SWL's, and even better pictures of the waterlines than my picture. Thanks for showing them Don.  |
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Glad to help Wireman, it seems that Charlton has to upgrade from the comic book style diagrams to a glossy version or something to help better define the varieties. In another string it was vague diagrams of the 1969 Small Island and the picture was pretty bad. If that is the standard, then we need something better. Just MHO.
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11/02/2014 10:20 pm
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Going by the pictures and descriptions posted here, I would say that what Charlton SWL reference is outright incorrect.
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Here is an ICCS attributed 1950 SWL.  |
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Well I was a bit off, by two grades, oh shucks!  |
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JommyD I played a bit with your close up and came to the conclusion that it is not s SWL. please look at my experiment photo copied from your. it appears the end of the WL are "taken over" by some kind of spotting.  |
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