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 Posted 10/31/2014  08:52 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add simone1978 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
good Morning
I wanted to ask how do you distinguish a restrike from a normal to a ruble of 1802.
Thank you Simone
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Here an article on that general subject regarding Russian coins -> https://vintages-antiques-collectib...ssian-coins/
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thanks so much for your very interesting article, because the money I have on ruller it says Petter II, instead of Alexander as reported by NGC coin attach the image of the currency Regards Simone
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 Posted 10/31/2014  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Medieval to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Alexander I became czar on 23rd March 1801, so your coin dated 1802 definitely falls into his reign.
From the pictures I would say that it is an original strike. 1802 AI is the most common issue of the type, with a mintage over 5 million.
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 Posted 10/31/2014  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add simone1978 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Probably having made ​​many coins there are many variations
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Under Alexander I there were only 4 very similar types, all being very simple in the design.
Within each of the types there would not be much variation being milled coinage, but to mill millions of coins requires quite a few die pairs but there are no detailed die studies for those coins as far as I know.
Hope you enjoy your coin.
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Peter II was tsar from 1727 to 1730. The ruble pictured looks to me like other Alexander I's I own. 1802 is close to the time of Pavel I, but the appearance of these rubles is very much different.

Beyond that it's a very nice coin, with sharp detail and attractive toning.
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Thank you so much money is in excellent preservation with its patina, but what I can not find what needs to be written around the edge of the coin. Simone
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The expected edge for an 1802 ruble is "Gosudarstvennaia Ross. Moneta", in equivalent raised Cyrillic letters.

While this is a fairly common ruble, I would estimate its value to be about $1000 in this condition.
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