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What kind of premium should you expect to pay for roughly ~15% Diving goose? I have this one still sealed in the mint plastic with the set. I am undecided if I am going to list it or keep it, I just want to hear some opinions.  |
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What a helpful informative post! I can't express how much I appreciate your help Doug. Thanks for taking the time to clearly detail your opinions and reasoning.
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Doug is right. 15% is right at the margin of mint tolerances for die alignment. I would expect to pay no premium for such a set, as die rotations for the dollar, 25-cent, 10-cent and 1-cent are fairly common in PL strikes.
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11/02/2014 6:37 pm
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@SPP-Ottawa Thanks for the response, do you know any reference books or web references where I can read up on the topic of mint tolerances?
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I don't know of any formal references, and the mint reports do not dive into those kind of details. I once had a conversation with an engineer from the RCM and he said they usually try to catch any die rotations higher than 10 degrees (modern tolerance limit). The 15% stated above, from strikes in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s, came from conversations with Bill Cross and Brian Cornwall, whom most likely, got information on earlier minting practices much the same way I did - word of mouth from those who worked there. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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11/02/2014 8:08 pm
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15° or 15% ?
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Thanks for the response, I am still going to try to get a small premium nothing too drastic ~5-10 Bucks, because I have sold quite a few of these sets and loose coins and haven't come across one with the rotation. Maybe I just never noticed or have been unlucky...
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Degrees... (sometimes I also prefer to work in radians.... but that definitely would confuse the masses)...
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Lol... saying "pi/12 radians" won't have great reception!  From what I've heard, you can get very big premiums with a rotation of 45º or greater. Even 30º might carry a reasonable premium. |
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Suggest you be careful calling it a diving goose. That term is a known and accepted term used for the "real" diving goose by all TPG's. Using this description for less than a 45 degree dive could easy lead to confusion and assumptions. Perhaps things have changed and I am wrong? I purchased one a few years back on the bay. it was titled Diving Goose. I assumed it to be the real thing. It was not. The seller did not want to make good. He insisted his to be a diving goose. It was eventually settled as ebay accepted the "not as described" reason. But it took a while. |
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I see what you are saying but the goose is diving and I have 15 degrees right in the title. So it is as described. Did you send that guy his coin back?
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you mean the 1872 10 cent?
The images I used here were his scans. I made a deal with the seller, but I do not even have it yet, but will have it within 2 days. it is being sent via our "ever so not reliable" Canada post as a express letter.
was shipped this morning from Mill Bay-Vancouver Island to just outside Campbell River, also on Vancouver Island. and according to their 2 day guaranteed delivery promise, should be here on Wednesday. (a recent express shipment a couple weeks ago, 3 days guaranteed delivery from here to Regina, took all of 7 DAYS!
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