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I am looking for an Aegina Turtle and I saw this one on ebay. It still has a few days to go so the bidding will go higher. What do you think?  I can't get link to work. Here is item Number 361096105415Edited by Topcat7
11/03/2014 5:25 pm
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The turtle style doesn't look right (front legs) and the incuse marks don't match any genuine Aegina I've seen.
Granted, I haven't checked fake databases but this one looks very far off the mark. I'd stay away from it.
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Pish-- here are larger versions of the seller's images.   Edited by ThisIsFun
11/03/2014 5:13 pm
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I took a quick pass through CNG's archives and that reverse pattern is similar to some of the older Aegina staters. However, the turtle's forelegs look like Frida Kahlo's unibrow. It makes me suspicious.
Edited by ThisIsFun
11/03/2014 5:20 pm
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Thanks TIF.
When it comes to the iconic coins, I would want a cast iron case for buying it. These are so heavily faked, and my experience is so limited, I would be very cautious.
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Thank-you, Ladies. I have gone through ForumAncientCoins 'fake' list and I cannot see this one there, but . . . . The seller IS on their "Fake Sellers" list, but I can't find why, from his 100% feedback on ebay. However, your points are ALL valid, and I will let this one go. |
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Many of the sellers of fakes on ebay have 100% feedback, TC. For a start they rely on inexperienced buyers keeping the fakes. The moment anyone claims the coin they received is fake, many will accept the return immediately to protect their rating. The more unscrupulous ones will use strong arm tactics, exploiting people's ignorance of the way ebay works, threats etc to ensure they get the positive feedback. Once their feedback is declining they shift their business to an alternative ebay ID they have been quietly nurturing with small innocent sales they used to build up a good feedback in readiness. If I were you I would work on the policy that a bad feedback rating is a bad thing, but a good feedback is virtually meaningless. With regards to your coin here, I think I can see various warning signs. One is the style, including the already mentioned forelegs. Two I think I can see one or two casting pearls on the shell of the turtle. I wouldn't take the listing of a seller as a Forvm notorious bad seller lightly. They usually are cautious before placing a dealer on that list and have good reason when they do so, including a protracted record of dishonest conduct. |
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I have to agree this piece doesn't look right. Your best bet is to buy from a reparable dealer. You may pay a few dollars more but you will have the peace of mind knowing that it is real without any doubt. If you recall I had posted a thread not too long about about a seller of fakes on ebay sending me harassing emails because he was on the Notorious Fake Seller list and was unhappy that he was mentioned here. Well he is no longer selling under that name and has closed that account only most likely to open another under a different name. ebay can be a great place to buy coins, but not high value ones unless they are certified. |
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I just took a look at the other items being sold by the seller. They all have an identical finish. Many of the others absolutely settle the issue that the lot are fakes...
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I like the moxie it takes to charge 50 pounds extra for a certificate of authenticity he probably prints in his basement.
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