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Pillar of the Community
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I am looking to purchase this Julius Caesar and I wanted to see if there might be a reason why I shouldn't? Wt 3.4 gm 
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Moderator
 United States
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It don't like the way it looks. I haven't checked the fake reports, but it just doesn't look right to me. Is it being sold by a dealer or on ebay? |
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks, Ski, The dreaded ebay of course. That is why I am being so cautious. AND it is coming from Spain. I am concerned that the flan is too uniform? Edited by Topcat7
11/07/2014 8:28 pm
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United States
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For me it's the overall appearance that I don't like. I could be wrong, lets see what the others say about this coin. This is just one of those coins that unless it's certified or being sold by a reparable dealer I would not buy raw.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Do you have any confirmation of the reputation of the seller? NOTE: some very reputable dealers use ebay. That is the reason why you need confirmation of the reputation of the seller |
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Pillar of the Community
1121 Posts |
Quote:NOTE: some very reputable dealers use ebay. That is the reason why you need confirmation of the reputation of the seller What is, and how does one go about getting, this 'confirmation', please? |
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United States
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ebay seller lucernae from Spain is one of the good sellers. I haven't heard of any problems with his coins. Another excellent seller on ebay is amfcoins from Canada. He also has his own site Ancient Coins Canada. I've bought from him before and I highly recommend him.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Have a look at the seller's website, and search the seller from that.
Have a look to see if the seller is a member of at least one professional numismatic oragnisation. It should not be possible to obtain membership of such an organisation without some sort of professional credibility.
A fake coin such as the Julius Caesar pictured in this thread should not be sold by such a dealer; if that happens, you have redress through his membership, via private email, if you so choose.
In this case, I would expect that the membership would be a highly regarded international one.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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1) I call fake. It looks artificially worn and the flan is oddly shaped. Make sure you read the descriptions also because sometimes they may not put that its a replica/fake in the title but will in the description. 2) ebay is not some horrible place to buy from. I've gotten plenty of nice and authentic coins from sellers on there. Some on here sell on ebay as well. Like with any other place, online or in person, one must learn how to point out fakes, and point out questionable sellers. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Sel. Quote:
Have a look to see if the seller is a member of at least one professional numismatic organization. That sounds like a plan, but how do I know the name of ANY reputable Numismatic Organization, let alone the one that this seller may belong to ? And if I did know which one he belonged to, under what name would he be known? I have asked him (some of) these questions but even if he answers me, with some information, if he is NOT 'reputable', is that information going to be his? Are any of these organizations going to publish their membership lists? If so, where might I find them, or are they going to give them to me 'on demand'? Obviously you know of a way that it can be done. Can you please guide me through this maze? Edited by Topcat7
11/07/2014 10:41 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks, VK. I take your point, but unfortunately the 'description' is no help this time.  |
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Valued Member
United States
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Real one.  |
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Valued Member
United States
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My Two Cents.... take it for what it's worth. In my experience one can find some authentic coins on ebay through great dealers. I acquired some legitimate coins, see the Diocletian. Common and not terribly expensive, so why would anyone fake it and priced right. Then we come to authenticate coins that are rare or less common, so then ebay users bid the coin beyond fair value or if it is a buy it now it is ridiculously priced. Why would I pay $500 for a coin on ebay if CNG sells it to me for $250. Finally I have found some rare yet what I call mediocre portraits that are unique but frankly look like crap to me. So I pay $100 on ebay for an authenticate crappy looking coin yet rare. I had a rare Geta but it is so horrible looking I am embarrassed by it, thus why it was sold on ebay. So, as far as this JC goes, please pass up on it. If it is authenticate why is he selling via ebay with their high fees which are on par with an auction house? Edited by caesar77
11/07/2014 11:25 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Some international numismatic organizations, where membership would be suitable for the selling of ancient coins: IAPN ANABTNA |
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Pillar of the Community
Germany
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I think the appearance of that denarius just does not look right. Looks cast and lacking definition.
First impressions are important - and that is my 1st impression.
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks Sel. The seller is not listed on the membership list of IAPN. When I 'Googled' ' ANA' and 'BTNA' I didn't get anything relating to coins? They didn't help me, unfortunately. Cheers. |
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