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I would appreciate any information regarding this Note. Thank you   |
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It's not a bank note but rather a 'communal loan certificate' - note the "Ugyldig som Betalingsmiddel" (= not valid for purchases).
From the style and script it would be prior to WWI and most likely after the Prussian Danish wars for control of Schleswig, ie second half 19th century.
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Thank you for the quick response.
Any thoughts on who the gentleman is in the top right corner or any of the other subjects. What is the building? What about the image in the bottom left corner?
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Sorry, cannot help you with that. But you can try to contact the town of Schleswig, someone there might know -> http://www.schleswig.de/kontakt.phpThe only fields you need to fill in are 'Name', 'E-Mail' and 'Nachricht' (= message), the 'Absenden' button at the bottom = 'send'. They should be aware of some of the details or point you someone who knows. |
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It is Serienscheine notgeld from the community of Satrup located in Schleswig near the German-Danish border. It was issued in 1920 at the time of the Schleswig Plebiscite after WWI. From the looks of it, Satrup must have had a Danish majority.
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Medieval, I took your suggestion and contacted the town of Schleswig. I'm awaiting a response. Thanks again for your thoughts.
lettow, great information. I'll see if I can get more info from Satrup. I'm really interested in getting more information on the images that appear on the notgeld. Thanks again.
This is a awesome forum!!
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The Schleswig Plebiscite is depicted on numerous pieces of notgeld from that area. I have in excess of 75 different pieces of Schleswig Plebiscite notes (but not this one). The Schleswig conflict is a fascinating piece of history.
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Thanks again lettow. I sent an email to the library at the University of Denmark, today, along with the photos and asked them if they could provide any information regarding the three images on the front and the one image on the back of the notgeld. Hopefully they can provide some info. Incidently lettow there is a notgeld on ebay like the one I have, priced at $62 US |
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Thanks. Beautiful.
I couldn't send you an email. Been a Packer fan for 60 years.
My heritage is in that region of Denmark. I'm trying to verify the images based upon family hearsay.
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11/10/2014 5:10 pm
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Incidently lettow there is a notgeld on ebay like the one I have, priced at $62 USThat is about 30x what I have paid for most notgeld.
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Nice collection 'lettow'. Do you have any good reference for those? And if yes, does it include the issue 'Dnissen' wants to have identified? And if yes, does it explain the images on the note? The middle one seems to be the local church, but what about the rest?
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It is Serienscheine notgeld from the community of Satrup located in Schleswig near the German-Danish border. It was issued in 1920 at the time of the Schleswig Plebiscite after WWI. From the looks of it, Satrup must have had a Danish majority. Unfortunately there are two places called Satrup in that area. :) One is part of the town of Mittelangeln (in the German state of Schleswig-Holstein) today, the other one, Sottrup in Danish, is part of Sønderborg. I believe that the note is from the place that since 1920 has been Danish, also because the scene with the ship says "Sottrupskov". (By the way, the depicted ship "Rolf Krake" was apparently involved in the Danish-Prussian war in 1864, see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_AlsThat note can also be viewed, with a brief description, here - and you can enlarge the images: http://www.kb.dk/images/billed/2010...ct153143/da/ (Yes, I know they spell it "Sollrupskov" there, but I guess that is a mistake.) Don't know who the man depicted on the other side is, but the name seems to be Hjulmand Jørgensen ... Christian |
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'chrisild' interesting information but I tend to disagree with your assumption that the note is from Sottrup. Firstly you quoted Danish source states that it is from Satrup 'Tyskland' (= Germany) and secondly when you look at the three churches in Sottrup, they look quite different while the church in Satrup looks more like a renovated version of the one depicted on the note, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SatrupBut anyhow, let's hope for 'Dnissen' that the mystery gets resolved. Edited by Medieval
11/10/2014 8:05 pm
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Thanks for the information.
I've had no luck so far in researching Hjlumand Jorgensen. I agree about the church in Satrup. I thought that to be true along. In fact it looks very similar to the church depicted in the last notgeld that lettow had shown in his last message.
My grandmother's maiden name was Jorgensen and came from this Satrup region. So it's always been family hearsay that Hjlumand was a general in the Danish military. He is further depicted on the house throwing bricks at the Germans when he ran out of bullets. But as I said before I haven't been able to validate Hjlumand into our family ancestry. Nor anywhere else.
But thanks to everyone here, I've been able to narrow things down a bit.
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11/10/2014 8:44 pm
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'Dnissen' if you know the birth or baptismal date of your grandmother you can always try to contact relevant agencies to find out more. if you know the birth date of Hjlumand Jorgensen, then you could try to contact the Danish Military to find out if he was enlisted there and which rank he gained. Keep firing off emails.  |
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