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Lord Nelson Napoleonic Silver? Medalets

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 Posted 11/11/2014  03:34 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bas S Warwick to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Anyone have any info on these pls. Are they silver. What value?

I think they may be originally from a set of 9 or 10

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 Posted 11/12/2014  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Harmonica to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do they stick to a magnet?
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They are in an auction so unable to test them with a magnet. Here's a little more info

http://www.napoleonicmedals.org/coi...hm-454-2.htm

This medal was struck c. 1805 and was issued, together with Nos. 437, 511 and 591 in a small silver box. The complete set is very rare. See also note to No. 447.

Seems like the medals might not be silver as I deduce from that info....only the original (missing) box is said to be silver. Is that what others think? There is a mention of AE Gilt - not sure what that means

Current price sitting at US$78 for the three



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From the picture you posted it looks like they are some sort of base metal with some lead content.
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Thanks Medieval
Seller is stating they are sterling silver.

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Someone grabbed them for US$297.00

More info came to light - they appear to be made of white metal. There is one token missing - St.Vincent -originally a set of four. There was an identical set made of silver with a silver box.
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Hello this is my first post. I think I have bought these three medals. They are in a small wooden circular case of about 3/4 inch diameter. The medals are of a base metal and appear to be silvered. What I would like to know is, who they were struck by and who they were given to and how many were struck.
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Hello this is my first post. I think I have bought these three medals. They are in a small wooden circular case of about 3/4 inch diameter. The medals are of a base metal and appear to be silvered. What I would like to know is, who they were struck by and who they were given to and how many were struck.
kind regards
kiwi george



Did you try a Google search? I found some information that way
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There is a mention of AE Gilt - not sure what that means

"AE" is bronze or copper. "gilt" is gilt-plating, often applied to bronze or copper medals to make them look gold-like. After 100 years or more, the gilding has usually worn away in spots, creating a mottled brownish-yellow colouration. Unless the OP's pic is way off correct colour, those are not "AE gilt". They do indeed look more like "white metal" - a form of pewter. Certainly not silver.
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They do indeed look more like "white metal" - a form of pewter. Certainly not silver.




Yes agree, although seller originally stated they were sterling silver which may be incorrect. Kiwi George will perhaps inform us more as he appears to have been the purchaser
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Hi
You will have to bear with me as I am not very computer literate. My lady is typing this for me.
I have the coins in front of me. They do not respond to a magnet. Their diameter is 3/4 inch. They are very thin and the relief on both sides is very very low. They have a silvered look under magnification of 10 with the highlight being towards black. The edge is knurled. I have been to the library and had about a dozen books out and can't pick up about them. When my lady gets back from the garden show I will get her to put up some photos. The box supplied is a lovely turned wooden box, possibly rosewood with a cut in thread screw top. Do you have any suggestions of what I could google as I haven't had any luck there either.
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kiwi george (I'm a gun at emailing).
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 Posted 11/21/2014  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bas S Warwick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
George

One of my original searches came up with

http://www.baldwin.co.uk/media/cms/...20Medals.pdf

You could probably email Baldwin and co attaching images and asking for a value.

Some of the medal values shown are quite high.

Hope that helps - let us know how you get on



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Just had a quick browse on Baldwins main site....well worth a look

http://www.baldwin.co.uk/medals.html?p=1

http://www.baldwin.co.uk/tokens.html

Prices look good
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I anticipate a rise in values next year, the bicentenary of the Battle of Waterloo. If other historic anniversaries are anything to go by, it's likely that there will be increased awareness and interest in the whole spectrum of Nelson/Wellington/Napoleon collecting.
Nelson memorabilia prices shot through the roof in 2005, the bicentenary of Trafalgar.
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