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Antonia Coin Claudius Ric 65

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 Posted 11/19/2014  03:20 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add caesar77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So, how do you guys feel about this coin?

Antonia-Coin-Claudius-Ric-65

Compare it to the one sold by CNG
http://cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=143967
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 Posted 11/19/2014  07:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Most fakes or aureii are really good. They have to be to enable a sale. For this reason, I admit that I am unable to say that it is a fake or not. If it IS a fake, it is a really deceiving one.
So some due diligence has to be done, if I was to buy it.

1. A verifiable provenance needs to be established. Are there verifiable previous sales records for it?

2. Who is selling it? How good is the professional reputation of the seller?

3. I would like an XRF test done on it before purchase. XRF testing is completely non destructive, and is realtively cheap to have done. Any bullion dealer worth his salt should have an XRF test instrument. Good quality gold aureii fakes are made of modern highly refined coin or jewelry gold. What you are looking for with XRF is the TRACE metals that would be commonly found in an aureus for the period in question. The test examines the metals in the surface of the coin only.
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It 'looks' genuine but gold coins are not my forte. The insane prices realized by these early Imperial issues certainly allows a forger to invest a great deal of time and effort into producing a viable product.

Best advice on high end gold is to deal with reputable dealers who have some idea of the provenance !
Preferably a very old collection
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 Posted 11/19/2014  08:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Assuming she is real, she is gorgeous.
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 Posted 11/19/2014  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a beautiful coin and one that I could never afford. From what I know about Roman gold it appears real, plus it was sold by a top notch auction house.
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The one largely pictured was sold by that auction house in Roma that had mass withdrawals recently. So I was suspicious of them. The linked one from CNG looked different that was why I was leery to buy it.
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 Posted 11/19/2014  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldnt be able to tell the difference from a fake or a real gold coin. That is the reason I only buy modern gold.I have a hard enough time with the copper and silver ancient coins.
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FWIW I have doubts about this coin. The lettering seems a little 'puffy' (I am sure there is a proper word for what an am trying to describe), but more importantly I can see no flow lines and with a metal as soft as gold there are always flow lines when struck.

...but I couldn't possibly afford such an item and have little experience of them in hand. I would hope that anyone with the money to purchase a type like this would have the sense to have them independently and professionally authenticated first.
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If you look on acsearch, few, if any, have flow lines.
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 Posted 11/19/2014  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Valecrucis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, as I said PP, it was only FWIW. I don't have the experience to say either way. I actually was passing on that info from someone who is quite experienced, after showing them the image.

I think the most important point was to have a coin like this independently checked. I still don't like the look of it and would need reassurance.
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11/19/2014 1:10 pm
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Absolutely Valecrucis. I wouldn't know where to start with a gold coin.
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 Posted 11/19/2014  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Valecrucis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PP I decided to give myself a below the line signature. Like it?
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