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Intro And 1804 Coin

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 Posted 09/06/2007  2:48 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add JJHigh to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,I am a new member and specifically signed up because I just came into possession of an 1804 US silver coin, while I was in Tibet (China). I need help on evaluating it to find out if it is authentic...or what it is? I appeciate everyone's help, in advance.
JJHIGH

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 Posted 09/06/2007  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the Forum!

If you are able I'd post a picture of the coin in question in this forum

http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...p?FORUM_ID=3
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 Posted 09/06/2007  6:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
my bet is its a 1804 Morgan dollar Chinese counterfeit, China sells them on about every street corner for like a dollar or so and they are littering ebay with these forgeries also. So without seeing a picture and going by the information given chances are good its a counterfeit instead of a authentic coin
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 Posted 09/11/2007  08:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are some sites that have pictures of counterfeit US dollars. I hope these help.

http://www.silver-coins.org/1804_dr..._dollar.html

http://www.silver-coins.org/counter...dollars.html

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/reidg.../page_7.html

Hope this helps. We would still love to see some pics.
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 Posted 09/16/2007  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JJHigh to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


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58.53 KBThanks for the responses, and especially the website that showed authentic vs. counterfeit. It is clear to me that my coin is a counterfeit (which I 99.9% knew), but attached are some photos for educational sake...comments welcome.
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 Posted 09/16/2007  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vaslin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What an interesting counterfeit. They didn't even put the denomination on it!
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I agree, I have never actually seen a counterfeit like that one, not sure it was actually made to deceive like most since they didn't go through any details to get it close to the original. The Original Bust dollars minted by the US Mint didn't have denomination on the Obverse or Reverse either
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It could be some kind of token.

Although, Since it came from China, it probably isn't real.

Just curious to know, what is the size and weight of the coin?
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 Posted 09/19/2007  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JJHigh to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
weight is 1 z. and size is 1.75" diameter. Appears to be all silver.
I also got these coins at the same time, from the same woman:
1906 silver dollar, 1 oz...I have 3 of those, and 2 1921 siler dollars...all U.S. Now I am wondering if they could be fake, too.
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 Posted 09/20/2007  07:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
JJ:
No dount a fake.
Just check ebay for some similar ones.
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I'll guarantee you the 1906 dollars are fake. The US didn't strike dollars in 1906, and all of the ones I have seen are based on the US one oz silver eagle and are struck from dies that are altered from 1986 to 1906. SInce the 1804 is fake, and the 1906's are fake, what do you think the odds are on the 1921's? And by the way, the fakes are not made of silver either.
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 Posted 09/22/2007  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JJHigh to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone for your wisdom...I feel foolish and taken, but live and learn. I'll stick to t-shirts and hats for my souviners from now on!
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