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1752 CA Austrian Ducat Modern Forgery (Gs)

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Fianlly added one of these to my contemporary counterfeit collection - intentionally. The seller I bought it from (Whites: U.K.) also knew it was a later modern forgery. Interesting XRF analysis of Copper/Zinc/Nickel or what is known as German Silver. Mine also has some hints of a confirmed gold wash in areas on the reverse but its the eye and overall crude workmanship. See the link for photo. Not sure if anyone else has further data on these issues. Mine is a dead on match to the photo. It seems its of the Reader's Digest pieces and they are well made with a german silver host with gold wash - of course the die workmanship is way off. I will include it in my new book (Forgotten Coins of the American Colonies - revisited) as a modern copy type and I will include it with the Chinese fake pieces and their alloy descriptions.

John Lorenzo
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Clearly not American-made then, right?... but sold in america without "COPY" emblazoned somewhere? Oh dear...

Obviously crude, but not so crude that somebody unfamiliar might think they're okay. Oh a lot of somebodies. Thank you for sharing. And yes, the original coin is gorgeous!
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I have one of those but mine is SILVER gold plated
V cut file mark on edge and acid tested.

Picked it up in the 1980s from a pawn shop/jeweler when I
had a shop myself.

There was about 3 or 4 pawn shops within a 2 radius from my shop
and I would often do the rounds and all the coins I would get always V cut file mark and acid test way before the internet
great days some real bargins.

my shop was Liverpool England

please let me know when you book is done I would like to buy a copy
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