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$550 now that's funny
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 Posted 02/28/2015  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tella to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Realistically Trout MS66 is such a low grade in the decimal gradings although coins coming from the mint these days, are lucky to even grade that high
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 Posted 02/28/2015  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Realistically Trout MS66 is such a low grade in the decimal gradings although coins coming from the mint these days, are lucky to even grade that high


I fully agree, The Q&A at the Mint is almost non existent lately.
I recently sent a 2015 Mint set away to be graded, here are the results.

10c MS64
20c Genuine UNC Detalis (scratch) turned out to be a planchet flaw.I gave this coin to Markn because he likes this kind of thing.
50c MS69
$1 MS64
The 5c and $2 coins were not even worth submitting.

I have a 2015 Proof set getting graded at the moment , it will be interesting to see if these fare any better.

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 Posted 03/01/2015  03:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PNC king to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
that is a disappointing set of grades you got from a mint set trout1105 it really shows how bad the quality control is at the mint , I would of assummed that the mint set coins would be first coins minted from a new set of dies from half decent plancets , to only get MS 64 for 2 of your coins is not good enough in 2015
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 Posted 03/04/2015  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tella to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The new die has nothing to do with it, the damage is being caused by what happens after they are minted (from the conveyor into a barrel).
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The new die has nothing to do with it, the damage is being caused by what happens after they are minted (from the conveyor into a barrel).


As these are produced the year before issue and they are charging nearly 10x face for these sets you would think that the Mint would take due care to ensure that coins are NOT damaged.
They can do this on the proof sets why not the Mint sets as well?
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As promised here are the results from a 2015 proof set I sent to PCGS.

$2 PR68DC
$1 PR69DC
50c PR70DC
20c PR69DC
10c PR70DC
5c PR70DC

3 out of 6 coins grading at FDC/PR70DC
and the lowest grade is PR68DC.
Just shows that RAM CAN produce coins of high quality so why not apply that same quality process to the Mint sets

I also sent a batch of Wedding Set coins in and out of 22 coins 16 came back MS69, 4 @MS68 and 2 @ MS67
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 Posted 03/06/2015  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tella to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For some reason the wedding sets do grade a lot higher I have heard. Unsure why as the process SHOULD be the same as the making of the coins for the General UNC set
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For some reason the wedding sets do grade a lot higher I have heard. Unsure why as the process SHOULD be the same as the making of the coins for the General UNC set

We are going WAY off topic here, That's not really a bad thing tho

There is NO way that the 2002-2009 Wedding sets were produced the same as the Mint set coins.
I have always maintained that these sets are in fact Specimen coins that have been struck at a higher pressure than the circ coins and the dies used were "Hand Picked"
These coins are similar to the pre decimal Proof coins in their Quality and the Blinding Lustre on them.
The mirror like fields and the almost perfect strike on these coins make these stand out amongst the circulation coins.
Chalk and Cheese really
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 Posted 03/07/2015  12:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PNC king to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
you are right trout the wedding set coins are indeed specimens
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 Posted 03/21/2015  04:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PNC king to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
latest up date for australian ebay listings 2,751 results for PCGS , and wait for it, 42 results for aPCGS , the numbers do not lie, the end of APCGS is near very near
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 Posted 08/31/2017  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eric to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, we got there in the end PNC King. APCGS has officially stopped accepting coins.
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 Posted 08/31/2017  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PNC king to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
time to crack open APCGS slabs and send them to a legit TPG
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 Posted 09/16/2017  07:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PNC king to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i am thinking of having a party in perth to celebrate no more APCGS , I will supply all drinks free
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