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Sorting through coins again today and came across this: Weight: 16.53g Diameter: 43mm aprx.   *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. *** Moved to the Ancient/Medieval coin section. |
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Russian Federation
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Byzantine follis (40 nummi), Justinian, regnal year 12. Nicomedia mint, officina 1 (alpha). Seems to be a die match to this coin; not sure if that's a good or bad thing, admittedly (or even if I found the match correctly). |
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Nope I think you found it january1may! Nice find! Thank you, I think I may keep this one, I like it!
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Moderator
 United States
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Very nice Byzantine follis of Justinian I, could use a little more cleaning to bring out more details.
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Australia
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Seems to be a die match to this coin; not sure if that's a good or bad thing, admittedly (or even if I found the match correctly). Unfortunately, in this case, it's a bad thing. It's not a genuine follis, but a "tourist copy" from Turkey. They sell them to tourists visiting Ephesus and, with three cruise ships a day, that's a lot of tourists. The one on the website january1may linked to is fake, too. We've seen them on the forum before, like this thread and this thread. The little notch above "PP" on the obverse is very distinctive of this particular replica; the gap in the border-of-dots at 2 o'clock on the reverse is also commonly seen on older examples, too. The sad reality is that we must always assume any Justinian Year 12 Nikomedia Mint follis is one of these fakes, unless we've tried real hard to prove it and can't. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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United States
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Good catch on this one Sap, I didn't even consider that it was a fake. They aged the coin where it looked original.
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United States
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Here is an authentic one I have (That I am quite proud of) from the same mint dated year 14. Plague coin. Justinian I. 527-565. Æ follis (39 mm, 21.96 g, 6 h). Nicomedia, regnal year 14 (540/1). D N IVSTINI-ANVS P P AVC, helmeted and cuirassed bust of Justinian I facing, holding globus cruciger and shield with horseman motif; in right field, cross / Large M; above, cross; across field, date (A/N/N/O X/II/II); A//NIK. DOC 118a; MIBE 114; SB 201. Note: Brown patina. Light porosity. Very fine. You have to realize that size, shape and weight of these very rather greatly. You see the largest pieces starting in year 12 and disappearing around 16 / 17. The weight can be anywhere from about 19g - 24g I have seen them on both ends of the spectrum.  Edited by Ancientnoob
12/11/2014 11:57 pm
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United States
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I agree with SAP here, the weight is 2 grams over, and the coin just "feels" fake.. I am not sure what the real weight of this coin is supposed to be, but compared to the one january1may posted mine is 2 grams off. Not sure what the tolerance of weight is on this coin, but the diameter seems to be spot on.
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That's a nice example 'Ancientnoob'.
@ 'pdscoins': What got me thinking on your coin is that the M looks so 'narrow'.
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United States
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@ medieval, I agree ancientnoobs details are much bolder, I specialize in US coins and currency but have recently got into ancient coins... but I am the true "ancientnoob".... lol |
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