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These Coins Don't Look Good To Me

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 Posted 12/25/2014  10:35 pm Show Profile   Check RK55's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add RK55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Fairly new acct, 27FB and inactive for awhile...generally sells $20-$30 coins now the acct is active and has 4 very scarce coins listed. None of them are slabbed, all raw. here is the first coin.

321626029110



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 Posted 12/25/2014  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Medieval to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a very nice copy.


Quote:
No Returns Accepted


Says it all.
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 Posted 12/25/2014  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add YoshiRules to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fake or not, I couldn't aford it anyways
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 Posted 12/25/2014  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add highrelief to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Clearly a fake, most likely bought off Alibaba for $5
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 Posted 12/25/2014  11:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeadowviewCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What does everyone think of the 1796 they have listed as a Half Dime? http://www.ebay.com/itm/1796-half-d...321626036581

It looks real to me though I think it is a dime. Possibly JR-6?

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 Posted 12/26/2014  05:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi

Even though the listing states, 'No returns accepted.' I read the fine print of the ebay protection policy which reads,:

"Counterfeit items:

If a buyer suspects that an item is counterfeit, and there are strong indicators that the item is counterfeit, we don't require the buyer to return the item to the seller.

The buyer agrees to cooperate with us to ensure the proper disposal of the item.

In such instances, we refund the buyer for the full cost of the item and original shipping, and the seller reimburses us for the refund."

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 Posted 12/26/2014  05:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Based upon my above comments and ebay written policies my related questions are:

1) Does a buyer still have 'full' financial protection anyway from receiving a counterfeit coin from a seller even though the listing clearly states 'No returns accepted'?

2) If the answer to 1) above is 'yes', why would any intelligent buyer in their right mind write 'No returns accepted.' on any coin listing whatsoever knowing that this type of verbiage significantly reduces the number of potential bidders on a numismatic item for sale?

3) What procedure could an ebay seller perform in advance of the sale/auction as a preventative measure to completely avoid receiving negative post-sale feedback if a coin is sold in good faith but unknowingly and subsequently turns out to be a fake?

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1) Yes, ebay will force a return based on "Significantly Not As Described."

2) You're giving these people too much credit for intelligence. Stupid is as stupid does.

3) If the sellers handles the return honorably, ebay won't allow a Negative Feedback. The Seller has an appeal mechanism.
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 Posted 12/26/2014  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The "dime" is interesting to me also, but not really interested if selling fakes also.
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A seller could build up a good reputation by selling lots of genuine lower value coins, before attempting to sell a top quality fake for a very high price.

That looks to be the case here.
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 Posted 12/27/2014  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeadowviewCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seller ended/removed the 1856 Flying Eagle cent. The 1796 he/she had listed as a Half Dime was also ended and re-listed as a dime.

Just updating this so everyone knows.

-MV
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