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1945 D Mercury FSB?

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I thought I knew what FSB were based on reading, but read a few more things that made me uncertain.

Anyone's opinion on whether this is FSB and grade? (I know lighting isn't perfect but it has some pretty fancy luster)

Thanks!

1945-D-Mercury-FSB?

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I want to say its CLOSE! Can you get better (closer) shots of the bands (all 3 levels).....If it does have FSB its a true beauty. Its clearly a LDS and would make it quite a find in my book!
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I apologize, I searched and still couldnt find it. What does LDS stand for?

Edit: Dug some more and see it, Late die State, so its marks are due to being done in an older die, yet the bands are still in fairly good shape?
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Best I can do with iphone and jewelers loop and bad lighting.

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Do you see the lines on the obverse? almost streaking, orange peelish? Thats a sign of LDS....Its when the die is reaching the end of its career and cant be polished anymore lol.

That said, With a later die state, Devices of the coin (letters,images, ect,) tend to become mushy and with a weakened appearance. The Bands, as well as with the steps on a Jefferson nickel, are high sensitive points that are usually the first to "go" on a die. Most full steps/Full bands are from freshly changed dies that give the crisp clean design to the devices that the designer originally wanted.

Im sure you will have to read that a couple times, I havent slept yet! I may even need to edit it but I think you get the idea. ANY MARKS, HITS, NICKS, DINGS, DENTS, SCRATCHES, ^^^ANYTHING^^^ that causes a break/interruption in those bands, demerits it from being FULL SPLIT BANDS. Would be more like almost split bands except for that one time I dropped it.
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The left side of the center pic worries me. Those dividing lines must be clearly defined, without doubt, to be FSB. In the full-face images, only the center of the bottom band bothers me.
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top and bottom bands look good. I'm a bit concerned about the far left side of the middle picture.
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I think it comes down to the bad lighting I have for pictures makes one side or the other look questionable. I am waiting on a little cheapy microscope to get in, or grab my wifes T4i and give it one more shot.

Any idea on grade?
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I'm hesitant to grade from my smartphone, even with a 2560x1440 screen, but it looks like a very nice Gem Merc. These aren't uncommon with FSB so it won't add a ton of value.
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Understood, all that I am doing with mercs is for collecting purposes, everything is going into folders, just availing myself of the community to help get a handle on grading so when I go through them all I can at least make it into the ballpark. Thanks!
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I cant give you a grade but after reviewing pictures again, I would give it a thumbs up to being fsb
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Yes here also.
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It looks FB to me. Nice dime!
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45-D normally have good strikes, and plenty of them have split bands. 45-P on the other hand would be like finding needle in a haystack. I think is FB also for the Denver mint, hope to see better pictures, use the camera macro function, it would provide better results.
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Last try with macro until new equipment arrives.

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Looks FB to me, except there might be a nick on the left side of the top picture. Beside that, all of them seem to be intact and split.
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