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1885 Morgan Dollar- ANACS MS-64

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I just got this coin in a pretty easy auction for $46.99. I've been looking up Buy it Now auctions and the most I could find for the $50 I had accumulated were MS63s and most were 1921s, so I was amazed to see this one going for so low. Maybe a great deal? You decide.



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 Posted 01/04/2015  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MorganGrader to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You seem to focus on buying discounted coins. They're usually discounted for a reason, in this case, I would say negative eye appeal. When it comes time to resell this coin, you likely won't recognize the values you're thinking it's worth.

You have to remember, eye appeal is what drives higher prices. Negative eye appeal will likewise punish prices. Please do not take offense, I'm just trying to help you out here. Sometimes it is far better to "overpay" for a coin with above-average eye appeal based on what you're seeing other coins realize, because in reality, you're far more likely to get that premium you paid back when you go to sell. Some of the coins I've come to enjoy the most in my collection are coins I would be buried in, based on what I paid as opposed to market values, but in reality, I've turned down offers for more than what I paid over the years.

A specific coin actually comes to mind, a beautiful obverse-toned Morgan dollar, with some lovely, deep and vibrant rainbow colors, graded MS65 by PCGS. The toning is lovely, and the eye appeal well-above average. I paid approximately four and one half times what a blast white coin in the same grade goes for and figured I would never sell it due to not being able to get my money out of it. I still believe I will never sell it, but just four months ago, I turned down twice what I paid for it, which would have been a mid four figure profit.

In summation, eye appeal is what drives prices, not grades or holders. Grades and holders just set a baseline to move off of, either above or below said baseline. Focus on acquiring coins with good eye appeal, and you'll do well in due time.
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01/04/2015 11:18 pm
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 Posted 01/04/2015  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I really bought this coin hoping that the pictures were just bad. But, I do see your point. I do want the beautifully toned Morgans, but I have no source of income and I have to get these said "discounted" coins.
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 Posted 01/04/2015  11:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MorganGrader to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Save your money. Buy one nice example rather than three okay examples. If I can find the self-discipline to do it, anybody can. I'm not saying you should pay huge premiums, but just buy a coin with nice, above average eye appeal for $75 rather than the mediocre one for $50 and you'll not only appreciate the coins more, you'll do better on resale in due time, if you opt to sell it.
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01/04/2015 11:33 pm
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If this is a scan its fairly likely the luster will be miles better than they show up.

Good luck, I'm excited to see how this turns out
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 Posted 01/04/2015  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MorganGrader to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The luster will undoubtedly be much nicer in-hand, but that splotchy toning is going to kill the eye appeal.
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 Posted 01/04/2015  11:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cruisinfusion to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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"overpay" for a coin with above-average eye appeal


I do that, I hope not too much. But if it's more money for a coin I simply cannot do without, I'll snag it! Several of my favorite coins I payed a little more for because they are so attractive.

Anyway, I think you payed a very nice price for the coin.
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I dunno morgan, if the toning turns out to be not as dark, and more colourful than the scans show, I think it'll still be a good buy.
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You will probably be able to get your money back on most Morgans due to the high demand, so I say buy what you like. Yes the obverse is a bit lacking in eye appeal, but I like the reverse. I say you did ok.

You could always crack it out and give it a quick dip Only kidding, I would never suggest that.
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 Posted 01/05/2015  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it might be a nicer coin which got downgraded due to the ugly toning. The only problem with paying a favorable price for this, is the difficulty with selling it later. It was cheap because people don't want to buy it.
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I feel like this scenario comes up a lot, myself included. We hope that the pictures are bad and don't show the true colors of the coin. We end up buying the holder instead of the coin. Pretend you didn't know this coin was graded MS-64. Who would buy it then? Seems like whenever I do something like this, it never pans out, so I've stopped "hoping" and only buy when I'm sure.

Anyway, hope it works out for you.
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 Posted 01/05/2015  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, this will probrably end up being a learning experience for me, huh? If it ends up being a complete bust I might try getting my money back by selling. I might have been collecting for about two years, but there's a whole lot of room for inprovement still,not that I am surprised though. Thank you for all the wise words and I will keep this in mind whenever I go buying again.
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 Posted 01/05/2015  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike1487 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Post some new pics when you get it
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 Posted 01/05/2015  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Certainly.
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Oh, it's worth every penny you paid and it will return rather nicely as long as you hold it for a couple decades. That's not a problem as long as you plan to hold. It just isn't a particularly liquid piece due to lack of demand.

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 Posted 01/05/2015  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You had me thinking it was a bust. So not a good, but not a bad buy.
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