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New Iberian Coin

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my first coin of 2015. I've wanted a coin of this type for over two years, about as long as ive been collecting...the stars and coin just hadn't aligned properly.


New-Iberian-Coin


obulco, hispania baetica
2nd century bc
semis
o: female head, hair in bun, olbvco right, all in ring of dots
r: plow above and grain below magistrate's name in iberian text (UIUIBORTuN/MINUABoI), all in ring of dots.

29x31mm
16.3g

FAB 1783

this coin is nice and thick, and very slightly scyphate, the overse is in relativly high relief. it is usually a deep yummy brown color. in full daylight, it sometimes looks dark green...sometimes not.

some sellers refer to this as a semis, some an as...semis seem to be the more common one, so i'll go with that. some folks also claim the bust is apollo rather than a female head.

obulco was a semi-autonomous iberian city, today it's porcuna spain (south central spain). the ancient ruins are still there. other than they had a mint (obviously), there isn't much more I can tell you about the place. not much info online.
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 Posted 01/05/2015  10:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Medieval to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice coin.

What is it with everyone already pocketing their first coins in this year?
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 Posted 01/05/2015  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice coin Chris, excellent detail and patina. I don't have any of this type yet.
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thanks guys.
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Nice coin. I have a very dirty Iberian that I haven't gotten around to cleaning. Can you point me in some direction that will give me a chance of identifying it?
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Can you point me in some direction that will give me a chance of identifying it?


Why don't you post it, someone might recognise it.
Also have somewhere an older copy of Cayon & Castan "Las monedas EspaƱolas", might be in there.
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I need to clean it up a bit first, and too busy at present, but I will post it eventually.
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i don't have a good ref pish, I just looked at online stuff. I'm sort of familiar now from researching this coin, so if when you post it i'll give it a shot.
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 Posted 01/07/2015  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doucet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin.

Burgos lists it under Obulco 1396, A.Heiss under Betique, Obulco 14. It's an As, Semis are smaller lighter coins.

I've been enjoying Iberian coins lately, glad you got it. I'll post pics of the drawings in the books if you want.

I have one of the same type with a different reverse legend.


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oh nice, that's a super one doucet. nice full reverse and great details. so is mine as as or a semis considering the size and weight? I wasn't for sure what to call it.
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Burgos calls these types As, weighing from about 24g to 14g. It doesn't list sizes, I'm not sure why.?

They sure are nice big heavy coins!

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 Posted 01/23/2015  09:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Veton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello. Nice coin, you can read something in http://tesorillo.com/hispania/2ibericas4.htm look for IBOLCA (name of the turdetan city in iberian language)but it is in spanish.

Weight is very variable because it changes a long the years (they used differents pattern: punic, turdetano, roman-sextantal).

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I,m sorry, I have just checked external links policy. So I hope moderator edit this post to erase link.

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Very nice coin! Big coin as well!
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