Harz-Zellerfeld 1701 Baptismal Thaler

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worldnumis Pillar of the Community United States 731 Posts	Posted 01/09/2015 5:58 pm Were these huge silver pieces actually used as money, or are they considered medals? This one looks circulated with some areas weak struck. Report this Post to the Staff

coinworldtv Pillar of the Community Austria 566 Posts	Posted 01/09/2015 6:14 pm This type of coins were issued in thaler weights, but they usually did not circulated as money. Their market price at the time of issuing must have been more than the price of a circulating piece. I do not think, that these circulated along with other thalers in daily transactions. They were not intended for circulation, but solely for donation / presentation. Similar to the popular St. George thalers and ducats. Report this Post to the Staff
worldnumis Pillar of the Community United States 731 Posts	Posted 01/10/2015 4:26 pm Thanks for the info CoinworldTV. Do you know the purpose of their issuance? They must have been popular because there are several different types and varieties minted over several years in the early 18th Century. This is the only one I have. I have seen a few others on ebay and they are not cheap. Are they very scarce? Report this Post to the Staff
coinworldtv Pillar of the Community Austria 566 Posts	Posted 01/10/2015 6:29 pm My best guess: A baptizing gift / presentation piece. There are ones in silver, but also in gold (1, 2, 3, 5 & 10 ducats) and with various motives. These were popular not only in Germany, but also Austria, Hungary, Russia and Eastern Europe. Generally they should be considered scarcer than regular circulating thalers as they were struck to be sold not to be used as a currency. Still if one needs to pay (the woner who received it as a gift or had it in his family) he would have been able to do so. This is probably also the reason why these gifts were issued in thaler weight and purity. Report this Post to the Staff
worldnumis Pillar of the Community United States 731 Posts	Posted 01/13/2015 4:57 pm Thanks for the info. This one is 52 m.m. and weighs 28.9 grams. Report this Post to the Staff
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