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1915 MO Dos Centavos

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Here's a one year issue, struck on what was previously the un centavo (20mm) planchet. These were actually produced only during the month of July and deemed illegitimate the following year, Since they were made while the Zapatistas controlled the Mexico City Mint, these are judged by some to be a form of Revolutionary coinage, although that seems to me to be a bit of a stretch. Interestingly, despite being downsized, they were not debased, and retained their prior 95% copper compostion.

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01/09/2015 10:48 pm
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Interesting, the encargado del poder, Chazaro, authorized the production of 1.5 gm 1c and 3 gm 2c. Question is was he government or Zapatatista?

Pro regular issue: Regular design, Mexico mint, included in the govt. mint report for 1915.

Pro revolutionary: Issued while the revolutionary Zapata had complete control of Mexico city. and the mint.
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I hope I'm not misinformed here but I think the Carrancistas retook Mexico City on July 11, and Chazaro fled at that point. I've always wondered how that event relates to the minting of these coins.

It also seems a little odd somehow that they're called "Zapata" issues, because Zapata himself seems to have been so uninterested in national affairs except insofar as they related to land reform back in Morelos. Still I guess the point is that he was in control at the time the coins were decided on.
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jtull - Welcome!

I suppose there's a sense in which all coinage struck after Madero replaced Diaz could be considered "Revolutionary" but I don't think that's what's ever been intended by the classification.

It's not clear to me that Carranza was especially more lawfully entitled to control of the apparatus of national government than Cházaro, Villa or Zapata at this point. What put the self-proclaimed Primer Jefe "over the top" relative to these rivals for power was actully the recognition in October, 1915, by the United States of his status as de facto President.
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very ineteresting coin in this conservation!! Very nice!!
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