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1957-D Foreign Planchet?

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I have what looks funny compaired to other cents. First pic is it on top of an actual 1957-D
1957-D-Foreign-Planchet?
Next dime on top
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Side view-
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Reverse
1957-D-Foreign-Planchet?

I know the first thing you are going to ask is weight, my shipping scale does not go that low.
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09/17/2007 8:42 pm
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your cent has been put in a bezel and then removed later. someone wanted to wear it as jewelry instead of spending it. probably someone born in 1957
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they call that an Encased Coin, it used to have a tin ring around it that had something like "Lucky Penny" or a name of a BANK or some other saying on it
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There was an whole bank roll of these OBW they came out of ( I got 3 of them). I thought of the Encased Coin except the rim around the edges look different than one of those.

Take a look at it blown up, the rim is whole around part of it and spread out on the other part. I also is not notched all around on the side, just in that one spot.
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I'm not ready to rule out some kind of collar malfuntion.
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Alright my last bit of evidence to submit to the jury-

Side by side comparison-
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Sandwiched between two other BU wheats-
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I still say encased Chris. but look on the bright side you have a very nice almost uncirculated 1957 D cent
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It came from an original roll, so it is highly unlikely that it was encased, removed from the encasement and replaced in the roll while staying in that condition.

It is more probable that it is a true error, although without seeing the coin, it is tough to tell what the error is.

I still lean toward a collar malfunction. If the collar did not come all the way in as the planchets were struck, this effect is a possibility.

The fact that the obverse was not fully struck up and the reverse shows weakness not due to wear really leans this toward a striking error.

Now...Put that coin in a protective holder so you dont damage it. :-) Its definitely not an Encased Cent that was removed from the encasement.

Bill

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There was an whole roll (50 of these) and I got 3. One (the one in the photo) was sorta the sacrificial cent that I used for the pics and my experiments (ring test, magnet test). I am going to look for a scale today to weight it. It feels like a different metal, feels lighter. The other 2 are put away nicely. Is there a place I could send it for someone to do a little more test to see what is wrong with it? Some place inexpensive would be nice, I have a whole $8 invested in the 3 coins and if they are just BU 1957-D I over paid! Thanks for the help.
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I still lean toward a collar malfunction. If the collar did not come all the way in as the planchets were struck, this effect is a possibility


Would you consider it to be a partial collar strike i.e. "railroad rim"?
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Nice, now to decide if it is worth sending the ANACS.
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No, Not railroad rim. I have one of those around here someplace but I cant find it right now. On a "railroad rim", the collar comes in fully but only catches the planchet partially. Part of the planchet is in the collar and part is out.

The coin ends up flanged and actually looks like a wheel on a railroad car.

The coin in this thread looks more like a weak broadstrike, sorta kinda. It appears that it is possible that the collar did not engage fully, the coin was struck and actually squeezed a little top to bottom so to speak. That may have caused the edge of the coin to have that appearance. Sorry for being somewhat vague but I cant be sure exactly what happened. I still suspect an error.
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By the way, if you get it slabbed, it will be labeled but you will never be able to see the edge again and that is the critical thing to be able to see on this coin in the future.

Just a thought...
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I weighted it today (finally got a small scale) it weighted 3.05 grams, the scale is good to the 20th of a gram. I was looking through my book and it said normal cents weight 3.11 grams, I do not know if this is in the tolerance for cents.
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Most are +.010 & -.010 not to be rejected by the mint
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