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New Member
United Kingdom
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i have aquired a gold french 10f piece in almost uncirculated condition but can find no reference to it in neither catalogue or internet searches.
the design is exactly the same as the "rooster" 20f coin!?
im pretty sure the coin is genuine as it weighs just over 3g, which is the correct gold weight for this coin.
any help or information you may be able to provide me with will be greatly appreciated
many thanks
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Moderator
 United States
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In 1899, both the old "Ceres" design and the new "Marianne" design were struck. Look near the bottom of this page, under the Third Republic heading, and let me know if the Marianne 10Fr coin pictured resembles yours: http://www.cpror.com/cprorGB/index5.htm |
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New Member
 United Kingdom
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superdave,
thanks for the link.
and yes this is the coin I have (Marianne by Chaplain 1899/1914) dated 1899, do you have any information on it other than that shown on the site?
and do you know why it is not shown in most coin catalogues?
thanks
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Moderator
United States
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I have little further information, unfortunately - it does not appear in my 1801-1900 Krause Catalog, and I do not have the newer one. I note that almost 24,000,000 were minted from 1899-1914, making them far more common than the previous Ceres version.
I will go ahead and switch this thread into the World Coins forum, where I believe you'll find an audience of greater knowledge than you might here.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1984 Posts |
I believe that's KM#846, they just don't bother to picture it in either Krause volume in which it appears. As a common bullion coin it is one of my favorites, but only commands a premium over AU content in higher grades.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1984 Posts |
By AU I mean Au, as in gold.
Edited by halfabustisbetter
09/17/2007 9:40 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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G'day,
Gadoury, 16th edn, 2003 - p263
1899A Ceres mintage 1,600,000 - last of the old series
1899 Marianne & rooster 698,503 - first of the new series.
There is a "flan mat" variety of Marianne, mintage "peu".
The prices quoted show Marianne carrying a premium of 30% above Ceres; and "flan mat" vastly higher.
Peter in Oz
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Many thanks for the info guys,This coin came to me in a bulk lot and is not my feild of collecting-so-its heading for ebay.Any ideas on what sort of price it should fetch? (thinking about a reserve). |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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G'day, your rock-bottom would be the current price of 3.22g of gold. Given what Gadoury tells us, you might add 30% to that. Or, you could let the market sort that out for you. I've never sold anything on ebay, but it strikes me that notices without information don't inspire much interest. Research and "talking it up" get their just rewards. In your favour - key date, first year of new series; last series before WW1 and abandonment of gold as the medium of circulation; relatively low mintage; the cornerstone of any collection of French 20th century coins. Peter in Oz |
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Australia
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G'day, your rock-bottom would be the current price of 3.22g of gold. Given what Gadoury tells us, you might add 30% to that. Or, you could let the market sort that out for you. I've never sold anything on ebay, but it strikes me that notices without information don't inspire much interest. Research and "talking it up" get their just rewards. In your favour - key date, first year of new series; last series before WW1 and abandonment of gold as the medium of circulation; relatively low mintage; the cornerstone of any collection of French 20th century coins. Peter in Oz |
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United States
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I've never sold anything on ebay, but it strikes me that notices without information don't inspire much interest. Research and "talking it up" get their just rewards.
In your favour -
key date, first year of new series;
last series before WW1 and abandonment of gold as the medium of circulation;
relatively low mintage;
the cornerstone of any collection of French 20th century coins.
Peter put it nicely. If you're going to auction, present plenty of information to establish the relative value of the coin. Plan on seeing bidders who don't really know what it is - that's the ebay way - and give them reason to bid on your shiny thing instead of the next. Do your best to create clear images - good scans are better than poor photos - and don't use a high starting bid or Reserve. |
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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And if you happen to be with the minority that can achieve a good scan or photo not taken by a portable thelephone assure the buyer he/she is going to get that luscious coin in the picture and not a scratched VF like happened to me with my last lucky angel .
I know my fault but it was a high feedbacker with a sound return policy and reasonable wording and he made the pic himself so nothing got me suspicious .
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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Oh I forgot
You should also mention it is an original cause in 1909 they started using restrikes (at least for the 20 FF ) for the following years and I never found out if there was an original 1914 20FF eg and how to find the difference with a restrike if there is any
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New Member
United Kingdom
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ok guys its now on ebay if you have a look and see if I have all the relevant info posted it would be appreciated,or if ive made any mistakes. you can bid as well if you like!! Seriously,you have all been a great help and I will be using this forum more often Thanks everyone. |
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United States
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