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Nero Coin, Real Or Fake ?

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 Posted 01/11/2015  5:42 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add tenbobbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello again folks, yet again I require your expert opinions on this coin which I am fairly sure is some sort of copy.
I have found very similar almost exact types but the weight of this one is half of what I think it should be.
Weight = 13.17g
Diameter = 33.5mm approx.


Nero-Coin,-Real-Or-Fake-?

Nero-Coin,-Real-Or-Fake-?

Nero-Coin,-Real-Or-Fake-?

Nero-Coin,-Real-Or-Fake-?
As Nero coins are fairly rare I fully expect this to be a fake, unless I have been searching the wrong denomination I think the weight is way off.
Your opinions are greatly appreciated.
P.S I forgot to mention that someone had put a modern stamp on both sides of the coin which surely wouldn't be done on a genuine coin, would it ?
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01/11/2015 5:44 pm
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 Posted 01/11/2015  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes it's a fake . WRL gives it away
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 Posted 01/11/2015  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wheatchaser140 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The WRL is a giveaway, it stands for Westair Reproductions Limited. Sorry.
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 Posted 01/11/2015  5:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As others have said, whenever you see "WRL" stamped into an ancient or mediaeval coin, you know you've got a base-metal replica. They are sold by museums and other history-tourism places, particularly in Britain, for a few pounds each. They usually are sold in a little cardboard holder telling you all about the coin it's copied from and making it clear it's a replica, but once removed from the wrapper, the WRL mark is the only indicator of its origin.

Do a forum search for "WRL" and you will find many, many more of their products.
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 Posted 01/11/2015  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh yeah fake.
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 Posted 01/11/2015  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Medieval to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Would not call it a fake but rather a well labelled modern copy.
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 Posted 01/11/2015  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tenbobbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thought so although I was unaware of the WRL stamp bit.
Fortunately it wasn't " purchased " but given so no cost incurred this time.
Great info again folks, greatly appreciated.
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 Posted 01/11/2015  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Besides the WRL, it just looks grainy and probably underweight.
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 Posted 01/11/2015  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tenbobbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Vermont
Yes it looked and felt wrong not to mention half its proper weight plus it sounded like a modern piece but just to be safe I thought I would ask.
I do enjoy this part of the forum and 1 day I will buy a nice " keeper for life " coin, until then I will just enjoy the history lessons.
1 more question folks, which site/s would you advise me to use if I was to make a purchase of a reasonable amount ( £200-£300 ) I would like something nice.
Thanks again
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 Posted 01/11/2015  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I collect 'WRL' copies as a somewhat interesting sideline.
Most of mine have come out of dealers' junk boxes.
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1 more question folks, which site/s would you advise me to use if I was to make a purchase of a reasonable amount ( £200-£300 ) I would like something nice.

Most of my purchases that large I buy from local brick-and-mortar dealers or coin shows - I prefer to see in person and don't want to risk losing something that valuable in the post. That being said, I have bought a few ancients and mediaevals from some American dealers. I've been a repeat customer of FORVM and Civitas Galleries. I can also recommend the dealers on Vcoins.
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 Posted 01/12/2015  12:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuy1530 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll also vouch for Civitas and FORVM. I've bought from both several times and never been disappointed.
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I always hesitate to make dealer recommendations but I have in the past pointed 'newbies' to Lucernae out of Spain. Many of his coins have a very satisfactory amount of 'dirt' remaining on them which while not a guarantee of authenticity is usually a good indicator. He has a vast inventory and sells hundreds of coins weekly via ebay. With some patience and selective bidding you might get a great deal on a nice 'fat' coin of the type you have pictured here.

He also seems to be one 'hell of' a nice guy who remembers his customers !
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One of my favorite Vcoins dealers is Zuzim , he offers very high quality coins for fairly "cheap" prices. He specializes in "biblical" and Roman coinage.
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 Posted 01/12/2015  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tenbobbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Many thanks for all your suggestions folks
There are a lot of very nice coins on the sites you have suggested, now I just need to narrow down exactly what it is that I want.
Kid in a sweetshop scenario

Sel, if you don't have this 1 in your collection you can consider it yours. Just need to figure out how to get it to you, if you ever do a trade with the UK let me know and I will post it to your trade partner.
Thanks again everyone.
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FORVM is the first seller I go to when on ebay :-)
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