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1979 Penny Close AM?

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Agreed that by your (harsh and over-lit) photos the AM appear to be close ...

There are actually three diagnostic pick-up points to observe in order to confirm a WAM/CAM variety ... and all three need to agree.

Spacing between "AME" ... location of the designers initials ... and spacing between "ATA" of "STATES".

Your coin is a 'normal' 1979 business strike with albeit unusual wear on the "AME" legend die.

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Isn't the earliest AM-variety Cent dated 1992?
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Thank you, but which one or more of the three does not agree in order to confirm CAM. thanks.
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nickelsearcher, if possible, could you please also direct me to the theory you just described about WAM and CAM. I was thinking that I had it 99%. Thank you very much.
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Just now I am also seeing crazy doubling on the initials on "G". What do you think about this. thanks.
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I need more explanation, why this is not a CAM. Can you show me another 1979 penny similar to this that is not a CAM. I compared it to existing 92 penny CAM coins and I do not see any difference, I am sorry. thanks.
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Only 2 things I can tell you he was talking about is the A in STATES...it's evenly spaced between the T's,on a cam it favors one side closer to the T on right and FG would be further from the building but I don't even know of any cam's in that year anyway
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Thank you, but I don't get it, even if there were not any, how first 92 CAM was found. I am not saing my coin is the first one, but it could be. Hopefully, I am sure, coop could come up with better explanation. thanks. I have 3 or 4 more 1979 pennies that are also Close AM and I mean realy Close AM. Have a good night.
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Yes someone with more knowledge could explain why your AM looks so close but as far as how the first '92 was found I don't think is the big difference as much as the 'how'- the difference with the '92 Close AM's is that they know where they came from-93 LMC's were supposed to be the start of the Close AM's and somehow when those dies were made they accidentally struck some 92's with them that is where the '92 Close AM's came from-
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It may look like a Close AM, but can't be. It is a Wide AM.
http://www.varietyvista.com/Lincoln...0Changes.htm
Note the many years the RDV-005 was used. The RDV-007 didn't start until 1993 on proof and business strike coins for that year. Must be a very worn die, or one someone put together from two different cents like a Magicians coin?
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khasil,
Here is a good site http://varietyvista.com/Lincoln%20C...0Changes.htm
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Thank you very much guys, I appreciate your help and I understand what you saing, but I came upon a roll of 79 pennies and many of them are almost perfect condition with practically no wear on it and look like CAMS. I understand now how 92 CAMS came by, but I assume simetimes FEDS can make an error they are not even aware of and, of course, this must be proven first before making any statements and the reason of me being suspicious is because of so many coins. I'll try to display them at some pint and again thank you very much for your help. thanks.
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