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Help With A Silver And Bronze Coin Identification

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I have a couple of coins I cannot identify. First is silver second is bronze.
Thanks for the help
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The second coin is of Valentinian I here is link to it http://www.tesorillo.com/aes/042/042i.htm
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Would appreciate clearer/larger pictures (top two need to be turned 90 degrees anti-clockwise).

The top coin is from an eastern empire and with less eye straining pictures should be easy to identify.

On the bottom one I can read DN VALE as start of the legend. While I can make out some single letters on the reverse it is a little too blurred to be conclusive.
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First coin looks like Azes II. I would need a weight to identify the denomination.
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I cleaned up your images of the first coin a bit. The coin appears to be an Drachm of Azes II.



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with the last two posters in principle.

But could be either Azes I or Azes II - for a definite attribution would need to check a detailed catalogue.
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Azes I and II are considered the same person now. So it's true either I or II.
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Thanks for the help and cleaning up my image. Does that mean that it dates to 35BC -5AD?

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As 'echizento' indicated there are still some open questions about the exact dating, but definitely last century BC.
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Your second coin, assuming the reverse field mark is an "R", by the process of elimination I would say it is RIC IX Siscia 14a type x(b)

Mint mark would have to be dot gamma SISC
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Just to be sure, In your opinion, these appear to be real original coins, not replicas or modern copies. Correct?

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I'm sure your second coin is real, I don't know about the first, I think it's ok..but I'm not as familiar with those.
do you know the size and wieght?
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The silver is 14mm, and the brone is about 17mm. I do not know the weight.
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In your opinion, these appear to be real original coins, not replicas or modern copies.


Quite comfortable with the Roman coin but the surface of the other seems to be quite grainy for a coin showing that level of detail. Would really need a better picture (and from the rim as well) to make a comment with some confidence.
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Here are a few more pictures.


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Nice Azes. At that size its a drachm. The condition is actually quite good for these. They are found along with the larger tetradrachm in a number of variations, they feature different gods and such. The Obverse which is the Horse rider, he either has a spear or a whip depending on mint completed with a Greek legend naming the King Azes. The reverse is in most cases the standing figure. This can be Athena, Zeus, Neptune and this depends upon the item the god is holding and pose of the deity to determine which is which. In your case you have a Athena holding a spear, with her arm outstretched as if she is handing out a small Nike who in turn is handing out a tiny diadem or wreath. The Reverse script is an Indian script call Kharoshti. It was desiphered in the 19th century and coins like this were used as the key, the Rosetta Stone per se.
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